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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:10 am    Post subject: Miscasting-Which character could have been better cast? Reply with quote

I love all of the LOTR movies and I think that PJ did an awesome job of casting. I think he made a VERY wise move when he recast Aragorn from Stuart Townson to Viggo Mortenson. I cannot imagine Stuart doing that role.

That being said, the only one I felt could have better cast was Cate Blanchett. She did a great job acting but I think PJ would have done a better job casting Michelle Pfeiffer due to her looks being more what I would consider the most fairest in all the land.

Look at this picture of Michelle and see if you agree:
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800018591&cf=pg&photoid=36997&intl=us

Maybe I am completely off but I have seen pictures (like the cover of White Oleander box) where she has white blond hair, deep blue eyes, and fair skin. And she was beautiful in a Mid-summer Night's Dream.

She might be considered too old or too well known but I thought she would have been good for the role.

Oh and Legolas - couldn't they have gotten a better looking elf?? Laughing Laughing Laughing Just kidding. He was too perfect for words.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cate Blanchett looks like my older brother's girlfriend...kinda scary though, but I don't know why.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first went to see FOTR I was all ready to hate it, since I've very rarely seen a film made of a book I love where the end product has shown any resemblance to my mental images of the book. When FOTR started up, it was creepy, as it all seemed exactly as I'd imagined it when I read it first. The only two who took a while to get used to were Viggo as Aragorn (when I was young I had a massive Strider-crush, before I matured and developed my Elrond fetish Twisted Evil ) and Cate as Galadriel. I don't know what it was with either of them, and I can't think of anyone else who I'd've preferred. Now though, having seen the films goodness knows how many times, I am used to it and can't imagine anyone else.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awww! I really liked Cate Blanchette as Galadriel. Sad The whole "Frodo, if this quest fails we're all screwed. And yes, you are alone in the universe," attitude toward her was grating, but I think that was less her fault than PJ's.

Anyway, my pick for re-casting? Weeeeeeell... if I had to say anyone, I would say Arwen. Liv Tyler might have done her justice in the looks department, but #1, her voice royally gets on my nerves, #2, some of the awful scenes with her (Aragorn's wet dream, anyone? Puke ) could have made way for something better if a different actress was hired who didn't have a contract demanding 1/2 hour of screen time in each stinkin' movies, and #3... well, in the cast commmentary she just sounded like such a self-centered little snot that I hate the idea of her being in these great movies.

As to who I'd re-cast, how about Jennifer Connely? She's quite beautiful (maybe in an older-looking, more "ageless" way than Liv,) she has great talent, and I just like her a lot more.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww. I love Liv Tyler. She's my favorite actress. And Arwen is my favorite chracter. Do not throw rotten veggies at me! I know I'm a minority, but I'm also a trouble-maker Twisted Evil I can't imagine anyone else playing that role. Especially not Jennifer Connelly (sp?) Now that woman grates on my nerves. I don't have a problem with any of the casting. PJ and Fran did a great job picking actors. I only have a problem with the way they interpreted Celeborn and the lines they gave him.

BTW, where did you hear/read that Liv Tyler had a contract that says she gets half an hour screen time in every movie?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure that there are plenty of actresses that could play Arwen as well if not better than her. I personally liked her and would not like Jennifer Connelly as her. However any doubts you had about Liv Tyler, she redeemed herself in that last scene in ROTK when she shyly peeked around the banner. After that I was like - AWWWW.

And I think the screen time was more PJ because he felt he had to play up the romance for some of Aragorn's motives to make sense. How else would you understand Eowyn throwing herself at him only to be rejected? If they hadn't played up the romance with Arwen, you would have thought - WHAT????

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarrasingly, when I saw the first trailer, I had no idea what the thing was, but as Liv was in it, I immedeately knew that I would be going to see it.

I then read the books. I then fell in love with the story. So, it really is all her fault that I am here at all. So you can blame her for my presence here bugging you! Rolling Eyes

I finished all of the books before the first movie came out, and honestly, the movie really helped me out. I am a v. dialogue driven person and JRRT's narrative, while wonderful was difficult for me.

The only person I would have recast...I thought Denathor was a bit too harsh, he was not only miscast, he was misportrayed. I would have given him a more fragile insanity. But neither here nor there now that it is all wonderfully finished.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After many viewing of the trilogy EE DVDs, I don't think I would have re-cast any particular character. I would have liked a better defined Denathor, without know he was corrupted by Sauron through the palantir, you would not have known he was capable of loving Faramir.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Hmm Reply with quote

It's harder now to think of who could have played what in the films now that everything has been shot and done. I would think that Denethor kind of ruined it for me but the actor that portrayed him had to resemble Aragorn in some way yet, I agree. I had always pictured him a more youthful aged person not as haggard as they've made him look.

The qualms I've had was the no-show of Bombadil, Elladan, Elrohir and the Rangers. Evil or Very Mad Honestly! Were they lazy to really follow the lines of the movies? More importantly, who would have been cast for those characters?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The twins could have been played by Val Kilmer, He was great as Philip in Alexander.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand leaving out Bombadill, I mean that could almost have been another story in itself. I really thought we needed to see the "sons of Elrond" and the rangers to represent the northern kingdom. The sons of Elrond could have delivered the sword and the message at Dunharrow and the rangers could have been present on that journey withour ever speaking and then been present at Pelennor and Morannon and cannon junkies would have recognized them but movie only novices wouldn't have been confused.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yavanie wrote:
I understand leaving out Bombadill, I mean that could almost have been another story in itself. I really thought we needed to see the "sons of Elrond" and the rangers to represent the northern kingdom. The sons of Elrond could have delivered the sword and the message at Dunharrow and the rangers could have been present on that journey withour ever speaking and then been present at Pelennor and Morannon and cannon junkies would have recognized them but movie only novices wouldn't have been confused.


Part of me wishes the twins had come to Dunharrow. But then part of me thinks that if they had, then I would have had less Elrond in the film. And I'm already miffed that there wasn't any extra Elrond in the EE. So I am torn. Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpaceWeavil wrote:
Yavanie wrote:
I understand leaving out Bombadill, I mean that could almost have been another story in itself. I really thought we needed to see the "sons of Elrond" and the rangers to represent the northern kingdom. The sons of Elrond could have delivered the sword and the message at Dunharrow and the rangers could have been present on that journey withour ever speaking and then been present at Pelennor and Morannon and cannon junkies would have recognized them but movie only novices wouldn't have been confused.


Part of me wishes the twins had come to Dunharrow. But then part of me thinks that if they had, then I would have had less Elrond in the film. And I'm already miffed that there wasn't any extra Elrond in the EE. So I am torn. Confused


So the twins show up and in flashback we have Elrond relate the verses about the paths of the dead that Legolas got in theEE. and I heartily agree, never enough elrond!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yavanie wrote:
SpaceWeavil wrote:
Yavanie wrote:
I understand leaving out Bombadill, I mean that could almost have been another story in itself. I really thought we needed to see the "sons of Elrond" and the rangers to represent the northern kingdom. The sons of Elrond could have delivered the sword and the message at Dunharrow and the rangers could have been present on that journey withour ever speaking and then been present at Pelennor and Morannon and cannon junkies would have recognized them but movie only novices wouldn't have been confused.


Part of me wishes the twins had come to Dunharrow. But then part of me thinks that if they had, then I would have had less Elrond in the film. And I'm already miffed that there wasn't any extra Elrond in the EE. So I am torn. Confused


So the twins show up and in flashback we have Elrond relate the verses about the paths of the dead that Legolas got in theEE. and I heartily agree, never enough elrond!!!


Or, and this just occurred to me - imagine the twins turning up at Dunharrow with Elrond?? I would have liked that. Yes I would. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:09 pm    Post subject: Hmm... Reply with quote

I would have to say that as much as you guys love Elrond I love his sons more plus that hottie from Mirkwood that isn't King but Prince. Honestly they're all good looking, By Eru, they're elves!

However, Val Kilmer as the twins?! Um, let's just get a pair of really good looking acting twins or that one elf to play two twins when Arwen and other elves say good-bye to the Fellowship. He's the tall dark haired one who looks regal enough. If we could see his acting abilities, that would be totally perfect!!!!!!!!! *swoons*

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