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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texasgirl wrote:
not jared leto. i don't think he's girly, but i saw him in alexander, and he seems rohan-ish, if anything.

the guy that ell put up - hells yeah! by the way ell, who is that hottie?

oh, and keaneu reeves (sp?) i think he does look twin-ish in that picture, but every time i say him, i would be thinking, "NEO!" ...kind of the way when i watch the matrix i never see hugo as "agent smith"....he's always "agent elrond."

that's the thing with actors, if they're in really famous movies, like LOTR, it kind of de-habiliatates them for any roles in the future, becasue unless their physical features were changed drastically (like orli's) they will always be remembered in thier most famous roles.

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I know this is slightly Off Topic! but one thing I've never had much bother with is watching Hugo in other roles. That was actually one of the things that drew me to him as an actor - the fact that he can be so completely different in his roles and still be convincing, to the point where you can't believe it's the same person. You should see him in 'The Interview' where he's playing this weedy little bloke who 'might' be a psycho, and who seems to be at one point, but also might just be putting it on for attention. You never actually know what he's doing. Thoughts of Elrond and Agent Smith go right out the window and you are caught in that character.

So the point of that party political broadcast from the Hugo Weaving Drool Party was that I reckon if the actor is talented enough, they can live past their roles. People though do get typecast after big roles, like you say. With Hugo though I know he turned down a lot of the 'Smith'-style roles he was offered after Matrix so he could do more low budget stuff that gave him more of an opportunity to act.

Sorry, off on one again. Shutting up now. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know this is slightly Off Topic! but one thing I've never had much bother with is watching Hugo in other roles. That was actually one of the things that drew me to him as an actor - the fact that he can be so completely different in his roles and still be convincing, to the point where you can't believe it's the same person. You should see him in 'The Interview' where he's playing this weedy little bloke who 'might' be a psycho, and who seems to be at one point, but also might just be putting it on for attention. You never actually know what he's doing. Thoughts of Elrond and Agent Smith go right out the window and you are caught in that character.



well, one of the things that makes him instantly recongnizable, even in roles like the one he played in Interview is that he sort of looks the same. the clothing, style and hair length might change, but underneathe he is still the sexy owner to the two most incredible eyebrows in the freaking universe. not that that's a bad thing... Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SpaceWeavil wrote:

I know this is slightly Off Topic! but one thing I've never had much bother with is watching Hugo in other roles. That was actually one of the things that drew me to him as an actor - the fact that he can be so completely different in his roles and still be convincing, to the point where you can't believe it's the same person. You should see him in 'The Interview' where he's playing this weedy little bloke who 'might' be a psycho, and who seems to be at one point, but also might just be putting it on for attention. You never actually know what he's doing. Thoughts of Elrond and Agent Smith go right out the window and you are caught in that character.



well, one of the things that makes him instantly recongnizable, even in roles like the one he played in Interview is that he sort of looks the same. the clothing, style and hair length might change, but underneathe he is still the sexy owner to the two most incredible eyebrows in the freaking universe. not that that's a bad thing... Twisted Evil


I didn't say I didn't know it was the same person. I'm slightly batty but not completely dim Cool What I meant was that he has a very strong talent for voicework, and has the ability to comeplety change his body language etc. IMO. I think basically (and have thought this for a while) that I'm of that opinion and find that impressive because I worked with a lot of actors, and saw a lot of ones who were not bad actors but who were not remarkable either. So someone with a real talent stands out to me.

I should hunt out some stills I have from a film called 'Frauds', and see if you could recognise him there Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I didn't say I didn't know it was the same person. I'm slightly batty but not completely dim Cool What I meant was that he has a very strong talent for voicework, and has the ability to comeplety change his body language etc. IMO. I think basically (and have thought this for a while) that I'm of that opinion and find that impressive because I worked with a lot of actors, and saw a lot of ones who were not bad actors but who were not remarkable either. So someone with a real talent stands out to me.



no argument on talent.....or on your sanity, either! Laughing Laughing

you've worked with actors??

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I didn't say I didn't know it was the same person. I'm slightly batty but not completely dim Cool What I meant was that he has a very strong talent for voicework, and has the ability to comeplety change his body language etc. IMO. I think basically (and have thought this for a while) that I'm of that opinion and find that impressive because I worked with a lot of actors, and saw a lot of ones who were not bad actors but who were not remarkable either. So someone with a real talent stands out to me.



no argument on talent.....or on your sanity, either! Laughing Laughing

you've worked with actors??


Yeah. Didn't want to, but they said if I wanted to work in theatre I had to. Cool Only kidding. Some were okay. Laughing Only semi-famous person I ever worked with was the woman who played the lead in Juliet Bravo, a police series here in the UK, but that might change once I'm finished this degree and I'm a high-flying legal advisor for the BBC. Or maybe New Line Cinemas. Or something Cool (yeah like that's going to happen)

Anyway, I have managed to successfully go Off Topic! yet again. I'm paranoid about it now as I got snarked at on another thread.
Shocked Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SpaceWeavil wrote:
I didn't say I didn't know it was the same person. I'm slightly batty but not completely dim Cool What I meant was that he has a very strong talent for voicework, and has the ability to comeplety change his body language etc. IMO. I think basically (and have thought this for a while) that I'm of that opinion and find that impressive because I worked with a lot of actors, and saw a lot of ones who were not bad actors but who were not remarkable either. So someone with a real talent stands out to me.



no argument on talent.....or on your sanity, either! Laughing Laughing

you've worked with actors??


Yeah. Didn't want to, but they said if I wanted to work in theatre I had to. Cool Only kidding. Some were okay. Laughing Only semi-famous person I ever worked with was the woman who played the lead in Juliet Bravo, a police series here in the UK, but that might change once I'm finished this degree and I'm a high-flying legal advisor for the BBC. Or maybe New Line Cinemas. Or something Cool (yeah like that's going to happen)

Anyway, I have managed to successfully go Off Topic! yet again. I'm paranoid about it now as I got snarked at on another thread.
Shocked Laughing


very sweet. i have a friend who ever since she saw LOTr she wants to go work for WETA and do animation/computer/graphic/stuff.

oh, and the off-topic thing, i don't think i've ever had three on-topic posts in a row....hmm....

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best thing I ever did was quick changes in the wings. Poor actor just has to stand there while you strip them and shove their next costume on them. Far easier if they stand still and just let you do it. That can be fun Twisted Evil

I'm looking out for vacancies in that job for Hedda Gabler in 2006 Twisted Evil

La, la, Off Topic! la, la Cool

Back onto the subject, I do wish they'd been a bit less gross with the Mouth of Sauron and cast someone a bit dishier to play him, but I suppose what they did worked for what they wanted. I just have a bit of a thing for the bad guys at times Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]Anyway, I have managed to successfully go Off Topic! yet again. I'm paranoid about it now as I got snarked at on another thread. [/quote]

I thought that was part of the fun, and it include the obvious warning Off Topic! and isn't too lengthy, well I thought that was okay in a thread. I remember the off topics most routinely apply to something sex related (knowing this group) and usually funny.

anyway, I'm not offended.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I remember the off topics most routinely apply to something sex related (knowing this group) and usually funny.



hmmm.....it does seem that way..... Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I remember the off topics most routinely apply to something sex related (knowing this group) and usually funny.



hmmm.....it does seem that way..... Twisted Evil


I can't actually remember what it was I got barked at for talking about. Probably was sex. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The twins could have been played by Val Kilmer, He was great as Philip in Alexander.


Two words! Eric Bana. I think he could have played the twins perfect. YUMMY!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have like to have seen Sean Connery(sp) as Gandalf, but that is just me. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Best thing I ever did was quick changes in the wings. Poor actor just has to stand there while you strip them and shove their next costume on them. Far easier if they stand still and just let you do it. That can be fun Twisted Evil



That could be fun if the "poor actor" was say ...Orlando Bloom, Viggo Mortensen, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Jared Leto, Heath Ledger, Johnny Damon (wait - he's a ball player, nevermind), Will Smith, etc. etc.

Oops....did I just go Off Topic! Look what you started Space Weavil...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oops....did I just go Off Topic! Look what you started Space Weavil...


Yeah, yeah, blame me...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any problems with any of the LOTR actors... I loved them all. It took me a while to get used to Orlando and Liv though, but they grew on me. And Elijah really surprised me... I was suspicious at first (thought he was perhaps too young), but I found him excellent. Smile

Just for fun: Some years ago, before there was any talk about filming LOTR, I was thinking how it would possibly be if LOTR would ever be filmed. And I remember that I thought - if they would make a film out of the book, I wanted Mel Gibson to be Aragorn (I had just seen Braveheart)! Very Happy But of course I ended up loving Viggo. Smile
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