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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:21 pm    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

Isn't being off topic and rambling fun though? Sean Connery as Gandalf? Hm..no, that doesn't suit him. He's more regal than Gandalf though Olorin does have that ancient power that Sir Ian does portray beautifully. I would have seen Connery as either Theoden or even Denethor. He's youthful enough and could have done so though John Noble did an excellent job as Denethor despite the fact that he looked way too haggard and creepy. Bernard Hill was also exceptional as Theoden so really...but I think that's what they were going for because of the stress.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only a little bit Off Topic! so I hope you'll forgive me Embarassed .....

Since we're are talking about casting who do you guys think should get cast in the LOTR Musical that'll be hitting the West End next year??

Personally I love to see Hugh Jackman as Aragorn... he's sexy as hell ( Smokin' ) and boy can he sing......
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: A musical! Reply with quote

A Musical! Egads....they'd have better a lot of Elvish in it AND Bombadil. However, a musical would take a long time. Jackman as Aragorn? Psh. Get Viggo, he can sing! He's a bloody Renaissance man!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistressofbucklebury wrote:
It's only a little bit Off Topic! so I hope you'll forgive me Embarassed .....

Since we're are talking about casting who do you guys think should get cast in the LOTR Musical that'll be hitting the West End next year??

Personally I love to see Hugh Jackman as Aragorn... he's sexy as hell ( Smokin' ) and boy can he sing......
.... I'll be over here melting into my little Drool Bucket


A musical? Why would they want to destroy it? I loved the movie Titanic and my sister dragged me to see the musical. There is something unnatural about people singing gayly as their boat is sinking. I cannot imagine LOTR as a musical no matter who is cast!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: .. Reply with quote

SecretKeeper wrote:
Isn't being off topic and rambling fun though? Sean Connery as Gandalf? Hm..no, that doesn't suit him. He's more regal than Gandalf though Olorin does have that ancient power that Sir Ian does portray beautifully. I would have seen Connery as either Theoden or even Denethor. He's youthful enough and could have done so though John Noble did an excellent job as Denethor despite the fact that he looked way too haggard and creepy. Bernard Hill was also exceptional as Theoden so really...but I think that's what they were going for because of the stress.


Connery was who Jackson originally wanted for Gandalf, but when he was offered the role Connery turned it down saying.* Turned down the role of "Gandalf" in The Lord of the Rings series (The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001), The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002), and The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)) because he didn't want to film down in New Zealand for 18 months. LOL I have also heard he wouldn't do it because he had never heard of the stories and when he read the script it didn't make sense to him. I find this hard to believe!

He did "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" instead.


* Source from IMDB.com
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a bit surprised myself when I heard. But they seem to be taking there time about it trying to get it right.

From what I can gather it won't be "Disneyfied" (for want of a better term) the producers are collaborating with a very well known (in Finland at least) traditional Finnish group and some Bollywood musical directors to get the music right and I think they said they would be trying to put some of the Professors own songs in... so we can but hope

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estel? Ah....well now that's a double edge sword. If you catch my meaning. Speaking of which, what do any of you think about Stuart Townsend originally getting the part of Aragorn and could you see him in that role?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

connery as gandalf?!?!?! hahahaha! can't yu juts see him in white robes saying "grey, gandalf the grey" in between killing orcs?

HA!

ian mckellen (sp?) did an awsome job - and sean juts wouldn't have fit, cuz no matter what, he'll always be the REAL james bond.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's always the thing with stereotypes isn't it? You see one actor play say James Bond, in the case of Connery, then you see McKellan play another role like Magneto or Gandalf and that's all you'll ever see those actors as. No matter how hard you try, they will always be Bond and Gandalf!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think one thing I really liked about PJ's casting was that he didn't get huge superstar actors and actresses to play these roles.
It gives the character an organic feel and most of the time you aren't reminded of other characters they've played.
I mean, if Brad Pitt played Aragorn...he wouldn't really be Aragorn he'd be Tyler Durden or Rusty Ryan with leather clothes and a sword.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely.

I don't like Brad Pitt and I agree whole heartedly that anyone else other than Viggo Mortensen would be strange. He was Aragorn in my mind.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait...rusty ryan..is that as in Ocean's 11? if ryan is his last name...haha! i've been trying to figure that one out for a while.
sorry, Off Topic!

and i agree - i saw x-men, and the whole time i was thinking, "bad, gandalf! bad!" i mean, there is even a line he says in the x-men that gandalf says in lotr - and in the same voice too. it's freaky.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texasgirl wrote:
wait...rusty ryan..is that as in Ocean's 11? if ryan is his last name...haha! i've been trying to figure that one out for a while.
sorry, Off Topic!

and i agree - i saw x-men, and the whole time i was thinking, "bad, gandalf! bad!" i mean, there is even a line he says in the x-men that gandalf says in lotr - and in the same voice too. it's freaky.

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I don't know ya'll. I sat through the whole Fellowship of the ring trying to figure out where I had seen Bilbo (Fifth Element), Elrond (Matrix), Boromir (006-James Bond movie), and Gandalf (Xmen) before. When I saw Viggo I was like ooohhh hot artist guy from Perfect Murder. When I see Sean I saw Goonie's kid and Elijah as The Good Son. But I brought into their characters completly. My husband had to tell me what part Gimli played before this. Of course through the whole thing I was thinking, "Hey, that elf is kinda hot. No, he's really hot. Is it just me? I won't say anything and admire him secretly." By the second movie, I wasn't so secret and my husband has caught on to the fact that Orlando Bloom movies are all seen by me. Much like Brad Pitt and George Clooney movies. I hated some of the characters - think of Pitt in 12 monkeys or fight club but I had to go see at any rate. I just bought Ned Kelly. I had seen it once but I couldn't remember much so I bought it. My husband said why did you buy that? I said Two reasons - Orlando Bloom.....

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y'know, this may be an unpopular opinion, but I do think there's one other person who could have played Gandalf well, and that's John Huston. He did the voice work for the animated Hobbit and LotR, and I enjoyed him a lot. But he's been dead for over 15 years.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ellbee, that guy rocks! Holy, someone find out who that is and send his bio to PJ and strongly suggest 'hire this guy to play both Twins' in 'The Hobbit'. (don't care if they are in that or not but write them in)
Are there any pics of Stuart dressed as Aragorn kicking around? Just curious.
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