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BittenBuggy
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Jane honey, thats too much.  I love this place.
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DarkElfChilde
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| JaneDoe wrote: | | *mad hyena-like giggle* |
What drugs are you on? I want some. Will you share?
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JaneDoe
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| DEC> Believe it or not, I'm quite sober. I don't even drink alcohol (mostly because I'm driving myself). |
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PoweroftheBook
Joined: 20 Aug 2003
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Location: Appalachin Mountains of North Carolina
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Adding my two cents to this conversation (albeit without a clot), there are two main points to slash that really get on my nerves.
1. The wives being 'okay' with their husbands' newfound love of the same sex, even going so far as to approve their leaving them to live with their newfound love. I'm completely okay with homosexuals, but I would think that these ladies would be at least perturbed by their husband cheating on them and breaking up the marriage.
The ladies of Galadriel's line seem to suffer the most in this case - Galadriel, Celebrian, and Arwen. Didn't Celebrian suffer enough? She was tortured by orcs and raised the "Imladris Two" for crying out loud! And somehow I doubt that Arwen would be 'happy' for her husband running around with Legolas (or anyone else for that matter!) after choosing to abide with him and forsaking immortality. Unless 'happy' is some code word for removing the 'Jewels of Numenor' from Aragorn's possession...
If slash is going to be the basis for a good story, it has to include the good and the bad. If Celeborn decides to forsake Galadriel to frolic in the Golden Woods with Haldir, the author can't just ignore Galadriel's pain and make everything all better by saying that she accepted that, and still loved him, though in a different sense. Hurt is hurt, and all the "everything's okay" feeling in the world can't change that.
2. M-preg. Granted, Elves have a different anatomy from humans, but not too terribly different - to quote LeRouret's excellent "Pottymouth" - "Tab A fits into Slot B". Therefore, I am at a loss to understand how a uterus is attached to the large intestine, and how fertilization is supposed to occur in an organ that collects and removes solid wastes from the system. (Hope I didn't gross anyone out with that mental image).
There is, however, a very good piece of fiction on FF Net that deals with M-Preg in a believable way - the title is "Beyond all Towers" although I can't think of the author's name at present.
Okay, okay, I'll stop my whining. I know that no one forces me to read slash - but I would like to see the genre treated with respect by the authors. 
Then again, het suffers from a remakrable influx of girls dropping into Middle Earth.
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mistressofbucklebury
Joined: 26 Sep 2004
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Location: England
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I don't read much slash but do have the occasional poke around The Library of Moria just to see what's going on but I nearly died last night when I found a story involving a vampire Halbarad 
I've got no problems with crossovers or anything like that, when they are well written they can be excellent fun to read but this was just insane.....
The sex was icky and as far as I can tell completely impractical (  man and hobbit sex.... never gonna work!!) but then by the end of the fic they both had big shiny pointy teeth and they were doing the whole bood sucking thing 
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JaneDoe
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| PoweroftheBook wrote: | The wives being 'okay' with their husbands' newfound love of the same sex, even going so far as to approve their leaving them to live with their newfound love. I'm completely okay with homosexuals, but I would think that these ladies would be at least perturbed by their husband cheating on them and breaking up the marriage.
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If slash is going to be the basis for a good story, it has to include the good and the bad. If Celeborn decides to forsake Galadriel to frolic in the Golden Woods with Haldir, the author can't just ignore Galadriel's pain and make everything all better by saying that she accepted that, and still loved him, though in a different sense. Hurt is hurt, and all the "everything's okay" feeling in the world can't change that. |
I agree. What's more, those poor women aren't even given their own boy toys to make them happy. I mean, besides the fact that their husbands (you know, those fellows who said these strange words called vows to a being we know as God) are fooling around on them and rubbing their face in it, there's also the fact that they pretty much have to settle for solitude.
There's something disturbingly misogynist and sexist about that scenario. It's OK for him to use her as a baby factory for legitimate heirs or to uphold the image of being a "normal" family while he finds pleasure elsewhere, but the minute she so much as looks the wrong way at another man, she become the outcast. I guess I can't complain; it is historically accurate.
OK. Mpreg is something I absolutely will not ever under any circumstances subject myself to. Ever. It sounds like something that probably was good for a laugh a while ago but people are now actually taking seriously. It's not funny or amusing. No, thank you. |
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Alassante
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Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| PoweroftheBook wrote: | 2. M-preg. Granted, Elves have a different anatomy from humans, but not too terribly different - to quote LeRouret's excellent "Pottymouth" - "Tab A fits into Slot B". Therefore, I am at a loss to understand how a uterus is attached to the large intestine, and how fertilization is supposed to occur in an organ that collects and removes solid wastes from the system. (Hope I didn't gross anyone out with that mental image).
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The Power of the Book |
First off - Greetings from PoweroftheBook from a fellow North Carolinian (spe??). Second and forgive my ignorance. What do you mean Elves have different anatomy from humans??? I though the only difference was the ears. I hope this is a mistake because all of my elves have the same body parts as the men. They may have heightened senses (sight, hearing, etc) but that's it. There are some body parts I do not discuss in my stories but I hope the main one is still the same!! Or I guess I should say main ones because I do have female elves as well. I will have to go and buy the Legolas barbie now and undress him to see if everything is in place. Anyone know if the doll is anatomically correct? That could prove to be a further embarassment if I changed my stories to fit it and the doll was missing things or god forbid, had extra things elves did not have!!
The MPreg thing really messed me up for a long time. I started out at FF.com and they are rampant there. I do not usually read slash but there were a few that did not mention slash in the description but talked about mpregs in the story. I thought maybe I missed something big time in the books I had read. I bought the sil and skimmed the index enough to find out that it is not in there. Not wanting to appear like a dumbass I just kept my mouth shut and stopped reading those stories. I know anyone who knows me will have a hard time believing I ever keep my mouth shut! 
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