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ArwenEvenstar
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 Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:32 am Post subject: In Middle-Earth did they have... |
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| In Middle-Earth did the have kittens or puppies? - In Rohan mostly and Gondor. |
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JennnLee
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| Well, in the movieverse there is a shot of a cat in the Prancing Pony... and there's a dog in Hobbiton. Both in Fellowship. I can't remember seeing any others, but it's early and I've only had one cup of coffee... |
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Panneth
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Tolkien hates cats. The character in his early writing that turned into Sauron was the Prince of Cats.
Sorry, just random facts there
~ Panneth |
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NancyBrooke
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Panneth wrote: | | Tolkien hates cats. The character in his early writing that turned into Sauron was the Prince of Cats. |
With the other famous cats being those of Queen Beruthiel, of whom much fanfic is written. To quote the Encyclopedia of Arda:
"The dark and mournful Queen to Tarannon Falastur, the twelfth King of Gondor. She owned ten marvellous and magical cats" (nine black and one white) "that she set to spy on the doings of the people of Gondor. Her scheming was her undoing, though, since her husband set her adrift on the Great Sea, with only her cats for company. She sailed into the far south and was never heard of again, but she and her mysterious cats lived on in legend for millennia. (Note that these details come from an unpublished manuscript quoted by Christopher Tolkien in Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth, and so their canonicity is not certain.) "
The E of A also has an entry for dogs:
"Common domestic animals in Middle-earth. The greatest of them all was Huan, the Hound of Valinor ... the wondrous hound that aided Beren and Lúthien in the Quest of the Silmaril."
So, yes; Cats would be Bad  , and Dogs would be Good  . Go JRRT!
(Just can resist these little research niggles! ...) |
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Viv
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | With the other famous cats being those of Queen Beruthiel, of whom much fanfic is written. |
Really? I've never read one, though I remember thinking the character was cool. Any recs? |
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NancyBrooke
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| Viv wrote: | | Really? I've never read one, though I remember thinking the character was cool. Any recs? |
No, as I haven't actually read them myself. I just remember a period of seeing them come up frequently at Henneth Annun. Just to check I just did a search on her name (she's not in the character list) and got five hits. Enjoy. |
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NancyBrooke
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| Nessime's wonderful story "The Farmer's wife" has also reminded me that Farmer Maggot had dogs. |
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ArwenEvenstar
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:33 am Post subject: Thanks! |
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Thank's for all your help! 
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JennnLee
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| Quote: | | Tolkien hates cats. |
Then he never had one curl up in his lap and purr itself to sleep, and for that I feel very sorry for the man. I hated cats too till we got one, now we have two and I'm in love. (Also have a dog and an iguana - yes, we are our own petting zoo...) |
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