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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: Help with De-Modernizing certain words |
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How can I use the following words/phrases in a less modern sounding way?
Jealous/Jealousy
This statement - Do you even hear what you are saying? - He is trying to say that she is completely going off in a fit and saying things that are crazy.
Irrational
Can someone call someone else an ass, pig, or is there another word that would fit?
How can I say - beat your ass, kick your ass, fight, fist fight, punch you, or something like that. - I want one guy to basically say he would "kick his ass" if he wasn't doing something right now and the other guy to respond with something to the effect of "bring it on" I know that they would not say I am gonna kick your ass or bring it on but I cannot figure out a way to say the same basic thing.
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As you can probably tell these are two different arguments between difference sets of my characters. The first three were between a male and a female and the rest are between two men.
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More words and phrases - Can I use the following?
Arrogant and pompous
Good-looking or handsome (men)
Sexy?
My sweet
Baby (term of affection not small child)
Honey(term of affection not from bees)
What the heck is another word for moan and explored? - example - She moaned. He explored her mouth with his tongue. - So far I have used whimper, groaned, cried out, etc for moan but nothing else really is the same thing. Same for explored - have used plundered, plunged his tongue, dipped his tongue but once again nothing quite fits. And I don't want it to be "he explored her mouth" in one paragraph and then "she explored his mouth" in the next. My characters are doing too much exploring!!!!! 
Harder, faster, oh baby, baby....just kidding 
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Help with De-Modernizing certain words |
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| Alassante wrote: | How can I use the following words/phrases in a less modern sounding way?
Jealous/Jealousy
This statement - Do you even hear what you are saying? - He is trying to say that she is completely going off in a fit and saying things that are crazy.
Irrational
Can someone call someone else an ass, pig, or is there another word that would fit?
How can I say - beat your ass, kick your ass, fight, fist fight, punch you, or something like that. - I want one guy to basically say he would "kick his ass" if he wasn't doing something right now and the other guy to respond with something to the effect of "bring it on" I know that they would not say I am gonna kick your ass or bring it on but I cannot figure out a way to say the same basic thing.
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As you can probably tell these are two different arguments between difference sets of my characters. The first three were between a male and a female and the rest are between two men.
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More words and phrases - Can I use the following?
Arrogant and pompous
Good-looking or handsome (men)
Sexy?
My sweet
Baby (term of affection not small child)
Honey(term of affection not from bees)
What the heck is another word for moan and explored? - example - She moaned. He explored her mouth with his tongue. - So far I have used whimper, groaned, cried out, etc for moan but nothing else really is the same thing. Same for explored - have used plundered, plunged his tongue, dipped his tongue but once again nothing quite fits. And I don't want it to be "he explored her mouth" in one paragraph and then "she explored his mouth" in the next. My characters are doing too much exploring!!!!!
Harder, faster, oh baby, baby....just kidding |
Jealous / jealousy – can be old fashioned depending on the context. Or you can use envy, rivalry, (or if you want to go really old-fashioned, covetous  ) Depends on how you’re actually using the word, like what else is going on with the characters.
Do you hear what you are saying etc. – again depends on the character speaking, but something like ‘Can you not hear the madness in your own words?’ or something like that? Or ‘I listen to you now and your words are not your own! They are twisted by envy, (or whatever)’
Irrational - again depends on context, but something like ‘unsound’, ‘fallacious’, ‘preposterous’ maybe.
Now to kicking ass… Not sure. Can’t actually remember what I tend to use (think I’ve had a predilection for people threatening other people’s entrails lately ). But something like ‘beat you until you howl for mercy’ or ‘I shall break you’ or something like that. Can’t think for that one right now.
As for the other words, I would use handsome, but not good-looking, sexy, baby or honey. Baby and honey to me sound a bit too modern US English, but that might just be me. If I saw ‘my sweet’ in a fic it wouldn’t bother me the same.
I can’t really think on the moaning and exploring at the moment either, but with so many accomplished NC 17 writers here, then I’m sure someone will step in to help. There’s also a thread somewhere about smut writing that has a link to a ‘thesaurus’ site.
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Oh, I missed the ass/pig thing. What about a beast, or pig I would think would be acceptable, again wrapped up in proper context.
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If someone can find that link to the smut thesaurus, that would be muchly appreciated.
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Alassante
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I cannot open it from work. My work firewall popped up and said was I was trying to access a sex site. I was like  . anyway, I will have to look at it from home. 
SW It sounds like you are saying that I can use jealous, jealousy, and irrational plus my sweet. Which is good because the other suggestions you had for jealous do not fit. And I love to use the term my sweet as much as my love or my beloved. Correct me if I understood you wrong about jealous and irrational. I am totally bummed I cannot use kick your ass and bring it. Cause they really fit the scene. It was between Eomer and Elrohir and I can sooo see those two saying that in modern times.
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| Alassante wrote: | | SW It sounds like you are saying that I can use jealous, jealousy, and irrational plus my sweet. Which is good because the other suggestions you had for jealous do not fit. And I love to use the term my sweet as much as my love or my beloved. Correct me if I understood you wrong about jealous and irrational. I am totally bummed I cannot use kick your ass and bring it. Cause they really fit the scene. It was between Eomer and Elrohir and I can sooo see those two saying that in modern times. |
With things like jealousy and irrational, I don't see as there would be a problem. If we're going technical about it, jealousy is derived from a Middle English word, so therefore can be used in an 'old-fashioned' sense IMO. What I meant was that the word itself isn't modern, but you would have to make sure that the rest of your sentence wasn't modern. E.g. Your words come from jealousy, sir, not love rather than Oh my god, how jealous are you? (both of those are a bit silly, but you see what I mean?)
As I said though, it's hard to find an alternative word without knowing what you want it for. Maybe someone else can come up with better suggestions as to alternatives for you.
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If you want to de-modernize your wording look it up online and then find the first time it was used and use that spelling. This is jealous taken from the Merriam webster online dicitionary.
Main Entry: jeal·ous
Pronunciation: 'je-l&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English jelous, from Old French, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin zelosus, from Late Latin zelus zeal -- more at ZEAL
or my favorite *warning the f word*
| Quote: | Main Entry: 1fuck
Pronunciation: 'f&k
Function: verb
Etymology: akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish dialect fokka to copulate |
I just can't help but giggle at the "akin to fokken to breed (cattle)
Just something i've found helpful. Also think of how Shakespear wrote, especially in plays like A mid summer nights dream or much ado about nothing. Especially Much ado about nothing
Hope that helps somewhat.
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Al, I gave you the link to the feckin' archaic thesaurus child! And we found that smut one as well. bemember?
Space, Elrond's hair is so pretty....*sigh*
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject: Smut dictionaries |
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Two useful "smut dictionarires are:
http://www.sex-lexis.com/
and
http://www.harvestfields.netfirms.com/etexts/31/00.htm
It is very difficult to be poetic in writing about "matters of love" when you speak 20th century English all day!
I hope this helps!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Smut dictionaries |
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| Eruanna wrote: |
It is very difficult to be poetic in writing about "matters of love" when you speak 20th century English all day!
--Eruanna |
Who said love was involved? Maybe I was just talking about mad passionate "fokken" (as krazykataave calls it). 
Seriously though, I have one story that is 18 chapters long and 3 chapters are one night/early morning's worth of sex. It was only supposed to be one night stand but it ends up being more (or else it would have stopped about those three chapters!) but after I realized the ratio of sex chapters to the other chapters, I cut down the sex to two chapters. Of course, I didn't cut down the sex, I just made three chapters into two long ones.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Smut dictionaries |
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Also good for a laugh just try female or male sex organs or masterbation. 
here's a favorite: a capella: sex without a condom 
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | Al, I gave you the link to the feckin' archaic thesaurus child! And we found that smut one as well. bemember?
Space, Elrond's hair is so pretty....*sigh*
Oh yeah, Spaceums, check out my new siggy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: Does sex always equal love? |
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LOL! We all know sex does not always equal love!
By "matters of love" I mean "things dealing with sex"--just to be poetic!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Smut dictionaries |
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| inglor wrote: |
Also good for a laugh just try female or male sex organs or masterbation. |
Were you one of those kids who looked up all of the dirty words in the dictionary to see if they were in there??
| inglor wrote: |
here's a favorite: a capella: sex without a condom |
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