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Elentari
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 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: A name for thranduil's palace |
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Does anyone know what is the name of the city/dwelling/palace where Thranduil and his court live? I can come up with a few names for Mirkwood, but I have not been able to find the name of the city.
Lorien has Caras galadhon. Imladris is just Imladris, but I have the impression (right me if I am wrong) that it was a small dwelling, not a city, in spite of the power that lived there. A haven for the refugees of Eregion, right?
But Mirkwood was a kingdom, and even after their troops were slaughtered down to one-third of its number in Dagorlad (sp?) it was bound to be huge. Hence there would be at least a number of cities, villages.
Anyone has a thought, howl, k? If you do not, Please give me a thought of what would be a plausible name for the palace. Something along the lines of cave, defense, (unless thrandywanted to distract the people from the original purpose of the building).
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: A name for thranduil's palace |
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| Elentari wrote: | Does anyone know what is the name of the city/dwelling/palace where Thranduil and his court live? I can come up with a few names for Mirkwood, but I have not been able to find the name of the city.
Lorien has Caras galadhon. Imladris is just Imladris, but I have the impression (right me if I am wrong) that it was a small dwelling, not a city, in spite of the power that lived there. A haven for the refugees of Eregion, right?
But Mirkwood was a kingdom, and even after their troops were slaughtered down to one-third of its number in Dagorlad (sp?) it was bound to be huge. Hence there would be at least a number of cities, villages.
Anyone has a thought, howl, k? If you do not, Please give me a thought of what would be a plausible name for the palace. Something along the lines of cave, defense, (unless thrandywanted to distract the people from the original purpose of the building).
Thanks a bunch,
Sheyla |
Wasn't Mirkwood within caves? I would think it would make it difficult to have spread out cities. In my stories it was always something like the Great Hall of Thranduil or the Great Stone Hall of Thranduil. There was another name for Mirkwood after the WOTR. It was Eryn Lasgalen which mean The Wood of Greenleaves. So you could always use the name Gleenleaves in the name of the palace as well. Plus originally it was Greenwood the Great so either could be used in the name I would think if you are making one up.
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Elentari
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: A name for thranduil's palace |
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| Alassante wrote: |
Wasn't Mirkwood within caves? I would think it would make it difficult to have spread out cities. In my stories it was always something like the Great Hall of Thranduil or the Great Stone Hall of Thranduil. There was another name for Mirkwood after the WOTR. It was Eryn Lasgalen which mean The Wood of Greenleaves. So you could always use the name Gleenleaves in the name of the palace as well. Plus originally it was Greenwood the Great so either could be used in the name I would think if you are making one up. |
Nope. Mirkwood was the name of the kingdom that lied in tthe region of Rhovannion, east of the misty mountains. The cave was inside the kingdom, ...
"In a great cave some miles within the edge of Mirkwood on its eastern border there lived at that time their greatest king. (…) The king’s cave was his palace, and the strong place of his treasure, and the fortress of his people against their enemies.
It was also the dungeon of his prisoners.” The hobbit, J.R.R.Tolkien.
But the people in itself, I was led to believe, lived atop trees. or maybe my memory fails me.... but anyway, I am next to sure they did not all live inside. From the text I thought they would all go in there if danger came too close, though.
Greenleaves... yeap, I can see that, particularly after the renaming.
How would that sound in sindarin? Great Stone Hall and Palace of the Green leaves???[/b]
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: A name for thranduil's palace |
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| Elentari wrote: |
Greenleaves... yeap, I can see that, particularly after the renaming.
How would that sound in sindarin? Great Stone Hall and Palace of the Green leaves???[/b]
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Thammas Lasgalen? (That's Great Hall of Greenleaves, but I thought it sounded good.)
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Most of the Elves of Mirkwood lived in the forest around the cavern stronghold of Thranduil:
In fact the subjects of the king mostly lived and hunted in the open woods, and had houses or huts on the ground and in the branches. The beeches were their favourite trees. The king's cave was his palace, and the strong place of his treasure, and the fortress of his people against their enemies. The Hobbit
And Legolas says in Fellowship of the Ring that Mirkwood is dark and dangerous except the forest where his people still dwelt.
The term Mirkwood itself, refers to the entire forest. Thranduil and his father Oropher held varying amounts of that forest throughout the second and third ages according to Unfinished Tales.
There is no canon name for Thranduil's stronghold and I've seen a lot of made up names in fanfic. Most were pretty good and I like the ones suggested here too. I think you can have fun making up your own.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: A name for thranduil's palace |
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So you could always use the name Gleenleaves..... |
Gleenleaves? Nice one. 
Sorry, I had to spot that one mistake. It's in me. 
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