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SilverMoonLady



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The great are always misunderstood!! Laughing

Blessed be the internet, that we geniuses may find each other in the sea of indifferent illiterates! Wink Beer

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SilverMoonLady wrote:
The great are always misunderstood!! Laughing

Blessed be the internet, that we geniuses may find each other in the sea of indifferent illiterates! Wink Beer


Here here!

(says the woman who's spent the last ten minutes translating Beatles songs into Sindarin... Rolling Eyes )

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honey, I wish I could master Sindarin to that degree!
As it is, I must drink much and stand on my head to shake out the little knowledge I have of any of the elvish tongues!
Drunk

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SilverMoonLady wrote:
Honey, I wish I could master Sindarin to that degree!
As it is, I must drink much and stand on my head to shake out the little knowledge I have of any of the elvish tongues!
Drunk


That's not that far off my technique... Laughing I've given up on the elvish Beatles songs though. Not working. I'm going to plunk for some old cheesy folksongs I know and try em in Old English. See how that works. Stupid twiddly little detail holding up my fic. Evil or Very Mad

Anyway. I'm yet again Off Topic!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you are allowed to mention LOTR outside of the Internet. I just get lectures about being too immersed and knowing way too much. Sad

(And he should talk to some of you. That would change his mind about how much I know.)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rous wrote:
At least you are allowed to mention LOTR outside of the Internet. I just get lectures about being too immersed and knowing way too much. Sad

(And he should talk to some of you. That would change his mind about how much I know.)


Have to say I actually have a picture somewhere of me being shoved towards the Thames for mentioning LOTR once too often Laughing

The folks at university think I'm insane (and they haven't even seen my house Shocked The Museum of LOTR related junk), but they've just left high school and still have that 'you have to be the same as everyone else' attitude. It's quite interesting watching it fade as their independance kicks in. Wonder if I was like that? Nah, I was a geek at high school too. A LOTR geek, in fact.

I'm rambling. I'm bored. (even though I have loads of work to do).

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ellbee wrote:
LuthienTinuviel wrote:
Laughing

What didja expect? This is a non-slash Archive! All of us has one similar phrase to live by;

"Het only please!"


That is definitely not the case. I like good slash as much as good het, and I'm a card carrying member of the Elladan/Elrohir club. In fact, I've never seen a Twin het fic that I liked as well as some of the ones that slash them, either together or separately. But it is true that slash is very prevalent in this fandom, and so, easy to find. The thing is I also like to read het, and it is what I write (mostly), so this archive is valuable to me because it's convenient to have it gathered together, and it allows, unlike Stories of Arda, NC-17 fic.

And just from reading over the rest of this thread, is obvious that not everybody is in the "Slash is so icky" club, so let's not have any lumping, please. Cool

-Ell


You don't know me Ellbee. But I'm Hugging you for being a member of that club and liking slash too. SQUEEE! (glomps!) And I agree with you, I Love this Archive, it is wonderful and rare to see. I'm surely glad to have found it.

(Though a slash archive's links page lmao Razz )

Seeing I mostly write Het as well, and enjoy reading it just as much as Slashyness, I have to say before I found this place, I rarely read any good het stories. but now I do.

Thank you OSA! (gives a thumbs up and a big flashy smile, like she's doing a informacial)

Monarchsnake~

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monarchsnake wrote:


You don't know me Ellbee. But I'm Hugging you for being a member of that club and liking slash too. SQUEEE! (glomps!) And I agree with you, I Love this Archive, it is wonderful and rare to see. I'm surely glad to have found it.

(Though a slash archive's links page lmao Razz )

Seeing I mostly write Het as well, and enjoy reading it just as much as Slashyness, I have to say before I found this place, I rarely read any good het stories. but now I do.

Thank you OSA! (gives a thumbs up and a big flashy smile, like she's doing a informacial)

Monarchsnake~


I don't write slash, but then I very rarely write het NC 17 stuff or romance either (only started doing romance since I came here....) I'm more keen on gap-filler stuff personally. Like I said, it's the same trying to find gap-filler stuff that doesn't revolve around romance, to some extent.

I have read one really. really good slash story that was a Les Miserables one (book, not musical), that was so canon-correct it was stunning, and although it wasn't graphic, actually was really moving and well-written. Shame I lost the link. Oh well. Not that I would post the link, but I'd love to read that again.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone know a good substitue word for "weather" or "weather-god" in another language. i'm doing a funnny greek-god story for my friend's birthday and i need a name of a weather god - or i need a good name to use myself
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read very little male slash and those that I have read are only because I worship the writers. They have the best easter eggs.

I have met 2 people in RL who are Tolkienites but have never had the chance to geek out with them. One is a good aquaintance that is still in the closet. He has ALL the books, even the Atlas but I haven't been able to talk with him about it, I think he is still unused to somebody else being as into it...Our town is pretty vain and conservative so anything remotely unusual is kept in the closet. The funny thing about this guy is that he is drop dead gorgeous. Beyond peer envy, Calvin Klien model good looking. It fun to go into bars with him, I walk a few feet behind him and watch the jaws hit the tables. My wife gets all fluttery when we see them, its ok though, I get to oogle his equally hot wife with impunity Twisted Evil . Even my mom thinks he is beautiful (and told him so). The other is an old friend of my wife's that we very rarely see. Just thought I'd share.

Inglor of the Closet

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the Tolkien Society send you? They can afford a firm, tell em to do their own g damn marketing research.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have my own theories for slash and for my money, its a way of writing a Mary Sue without actually writing a Mary Sue. Instead of a creating an OFC which will be immediately branded as such, the writers uses another male and thus avoids the stigma. Now I read slash but I don't kid myself about it being any deep analysis of homosexuality. I need a penis to truly be able to understand a homosexual relationship let alone write one.

This place came to be because for every one het site, there was a hundred slash ones and even then het was sort of tolerated like a poor country cousin. OSA exists to give het writers a place of their own.

Now the community...of late I've had a close look at the community and the fandom is comprised of your canatics, your moderates and your fan girls.

Specimen A - Your canatic, feels the need to smite down everything non canon, forgetting the fact the minute you write a fan fic whether or not it follows the letter of the Professor's work, it ain't canon. These are the people who consider themselves the vanguard who protect the Professor's work. They come up with neat little clubs where they bash and they doll out critique. They watch from lofty heights and occassionaly swoop down to take away young fangirls with sharp talons for the devouring Very Happy You may think I don't like this lot, I do actually. I respect a good deal of them because without them, we're be up to our asses in Princess I'msobeautifulbecauseIneedLegolas from the kingdom of Nonexistence, riding her pet gryphon and is also a fifteen year old ninja. These folks keep us legal.

Speciment B - Your moderates, which involves most of us here. We like good fiction, we're not afraid to experiment with something different be it slash, mpreg, bestiality (just don't post it here Very Happy), we still like to pay some respect to the source material and occassionally we take a climb up the mountain hideout of the canatic to see what the view is like. Some of us stay but most of us climb back down again. We like being grounded and we do this for the fun of it. We try not to write Mary Sues but we don't harangue ourselves when we do. Its a learning process. If anything we're the slackers of the community.

Specimen C - The fangirl. They live in the bright, sunny world called Mary Sueland, in the kingdom of FanFicNet. They are interesting little creatures, usually coming forth in an array of different shapes but easily identifiable by their long haired, multicoloured eyes and abilities ranging from dazzling any elf they see to controlling the gravitational lift of their perky breasts. Mostly kids, these will eventually evolve into Specimen A or B and are an ever evolving fanbase, depending on the latest release of Orlando's next film.

Whatever type we are, we all however, love the professors work and come from a global community. When we need to pull together though, differences melt away, we're almost as bad as Trekkies. Witness the lack of Arwen being at Helm's Deep. Does it matter that we all mesh, no, not really. Tolkien's world is one of differences and its the differences that make us all work.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scribe wrote:
Well I have my own theories for slash and for my money, its a way of writing a Mary Sue without actually writing a Mary Sue. Instead of a creating an OFC which will be immediately branded as such, the writers uses another male and thus avoids the stigma. Now I read slash but I don't kid myself about it being any deep analysis of homosexuality. I need a penis to truly be able to understand a homosexual relationship let alone write one.

This place came to be because for every one het site, there was a hundred slash ones and even then het was sort of tolerated like a poor country cousin. OSA exists to give het writers a place of their own.

Now the community...of late I've had a close look at the community and the fandom is comprised of your canatics, your moderates and your fan girls.

Specimen A - Your canatic, feels the need to smite down everything non canon, forgetting the fact the minute you write a fan fic whether or not it follows the letter of the Professor's work, it ain't canon. These are the people who consider themselves the vanguard who protect the Professor's work. They come up with neat little clubs where they bash and they doll out critique. They watch from lofty heights and occassionaly swoop down to take away young fangirls with sharp talons for the devouring Very Happy You may think I don't like this lot, I do actually. I respect a good deal of them because without them, we're be up to our asses in Princess I'msobeautifulbecauseIneedLegolas from the kingdom of Nonexistence, riding her pet gryphon and is also a fifteen year old ninja. These folks keep us legal.

Speciment B - Your moderates, which involves most of us here. We like good fiction, we're not afraid to experiment with something different be it slash, mpreg, bestiality (just don't post it here Very Happy), we still like to pay some respect to the source material and occassionally we take a climb up the mountain hideout of the canatic to see what the view is like. Some of us stay but most of us climb back down again. We like being grounded and we do this for the fun of it. We try not to write Mary Sues but we don't harangue ourselves when we do. Its a learning process. If anything we're the slackers of the community.

Specimen C - The fangirl. They live in the bright, sunny world called Mary Sueland, in the kingdom of FanFicNet. They are interesting little creatures, usually coming forth in an array of different shapes but easily identifiable by their long haired, multicoloured eyes and abilities ranging from dazzling any elf they see to controlling the gravitational lift of their perky breasts. Mostly kids, these will eventually evolve into Specimen A or B and are an ever evolving fanbase, depending on the latest release of Orlando's next film.

Whatever type we are, we all however, love the professors work and come from a global community. When we need to pull together though, differences melt away, we're almost as bad as Trekkies. Witness the lack of Arwen being at Helm's Deep. Does it matter that we all mesh, no, not really. Tolkien's world is one of differences and its the differences that make us all work.


(claps) The Only thing I can say to this. Is, Well Said.

Monarchsnake~

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ellbee wrote:
LuthienTinuviel wrote:
Laughing

What didja expect? This is a non-slash Archive! All of us has one similar phrase to live by;

"Het only please!"


That is definitely not the case. I like good slash as much as good het, and I'm a card carrying member of the Elladan/Elrohir club. In fact, I've never seen a Twin het fic that I liked as well as some of the ones that slash them, either together or separately. But it is true that slash is very prevalent in this fandom, and so, easy to find. The thing is I also like to read het, and it is what I write (mostly), so this archive is valuable to me because it's convenient to have it gathered together, and it allows, unlike Stories of Arda, NC-17 fic.

And just from reading over the rest of this thread, is obvious that not everybody is in the "Slash is so icky" club, so let's not have any lumping, please. Cool

-Ell


I stand corrected, always. Smile I guess I'm highly conservative when it comes to sex, regardless of whatever it may be... I respect the fact that people do enjoy slash but in my case I'm afraid I'll firmly stand on my own opinions and personal perferences.

So hey, if you like it, go on...but I seem to draw the line there.

I see the logic in 'what's better than one sexy elf, two of course' but I'll have to disagree of the concept. Hell, it sounds wonderful, but as things go where I am, it's not widely accepted or will be anytime soon. (God, I sound...prudish.)

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