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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Stature of elves Reply with quote

While reading "The Book of Lost Tales 2" I found that elves were smaller and slighter than Men. (Page 145 of the paperback) .

Was this thought later amended? If so, can book and page number be given so I may read?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the books with me but- lazy me- have not read them in a couple of month. (make it lots of months)

Though I seem to remember that elves were taller than men. In fact, height was considered a sign of nobilityin tolkienesque, and tolkien wanted elves as the nobler, prettier, more elevated version of men. I cannot recall any particular quote or passage, however. Hmmm
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the books to hand either, but I do remember something in the notes to Disaster at Gladden Fields, in Unfinished Tales, about Numenorean measurements, and it talked about the heights of men, and also Galadriel's height.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The LaCE bit in Morgoth's Ring says that younger elves (elves in their first 50 years) were definitely smaller than men, but I figured that had more to do with the fact that they were still children. I always assumed that once both were full-grown, elves and men would be of similar size (with the inevitable Tolkien conceit that the more powerful/influential/important people were unusually tall).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to all of you....digging out my copy of Unfinished Tales....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Height Reply with quote

SpaceWeavil wrote:
I don't have the books to hand either, but I do remember something in the notes to Disaster at Gladden Fields, in Unfinished Tales, about Numenorean measurements, and it talked about the heights of men, and also Galadriel's height.


It says in FOTR, Lothlorien, that Galadriel and Celeborn were tall and grave.

"Very tall they were, and the Lady no less tall than the lord; and they were very grave and beautiful."

--Eruanna

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Galadriel was described as being about 6' 4" - John Wayne tall....

Thanks for the book, chapter references. Helps very much.
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