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ZeeDrippyVessel
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| Texasgirl wrote: | major...headache...cannot...concentrate...on....ANY...of...this
basically, don't we all just agree that OOCness is bad, OOCness slash is worst, and mpreg and incest and really not acceptable accept under certain conditions.
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And what is causing your headache, dearheart? Don't let the crappola bug you! 
As for the other, everyone has THEIR opinion on what OOC is. It's just like Mary Sue. But yeah... I make no bones - if you are going to have a truly ebeel Elf, make one up! Don't have Celeborn go postal! As for slash, you know there is just SOOOO much oil and spit in Arda and what Slash I have read (with the rare exception) turns a canon character into an absolute wuss. Mpeg is beyond unbelievable, incest is nasty, and Real person just squicks the TAR outta me.
Just remembered I forgot my meds....
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Amlee
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: |
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And if the Tolkien estate no longer owns the rights, who does? Because in that case, I would feel no remorse whatsoever in diving into the creative pool. |
New Line now owns the rights to "The Lord Of The Rings" As for "The Hobbit" that is tricky. The rights are split between to companies. One company (I think New Line) owns the rights to make the movie, but another company owns ( I want to say MGM) owns the rights to put the movie into the theaters. So it works out this way. MGM can't make the film but they can put it out in theaters. What PJ has been quoted as saying is that if things could be worked out then he would be more than happy to direct the film. It was said back last year that if New Line could make the movie and get distrubation(sp) rights in the US and MGM gets the profits from the international distrubation then the film could be made, but I haven't heard anything on the making of "The Hobbit" in months. I did a thread on all of this way back if you want to look it up.
http://www.openscrolls.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=796&start=0
Now for the other stuff.
I myself can't stand slash. I think Tolkien would be doing cartwheels in his grave at some of the things that FF writers do with his characters.
But he would also be excited in knowing that his work has been opened to a whole new group of people. I for one had never read any of his books until PJ made them into movies. I had heard of them, but never read them. I have since read them several times.
Inglor you are right. Althought we are at war and there are men and women fighting that war at this moment. Nothing is compared to the fighting that took place in World War I and II or that in the Vietnam War. And for that I am thankful that the men and women in the middle east don't have to fight like the men and women in the past had to. It's sad that sex is looked for in everything. Be it slash or not. |
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Texasgirl
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| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ZeeDrippyVessel wrote: | | Texasgirl wrote: | major...headache...cannot...concentrate...on....ANY...of...this
basically, don't we all just agree that OOCness is bad, OOCness slash is worst, and mpreg and incest and really not acceptable accept under certain conditions.
k.
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And what is causing your headache, dearheart? Don't let the crappola bug you!
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the stupid dumbasses at work. for God's sake people, file it RIGHt the first time so after you leave for your *girlish squeal* hot date *more girlish squealing* I DON'T FRICKIN HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN!
sorry. 
 bad, TG, bad!
there was this awful mprg fic at ff.net awhile ago...i thought it'd be funny, but after the
legolas cried, "but ary's been ignoring me? and the baby keeps moving and keeping me up at night!"
gandalf said to the blubbering legolas, "aragorn loves you legolas....you have such romantic tenderness for each other"
and later....
king elessar stood in front of the people, took legolas hand, and annonced, "we are expecting our first child!"
legolas blushed as aragorn bent him over, and like a romantic movie scene, kissed him firmly on the lips...."
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
*gag, chocke, DIE!*
those weren't the exact words, but that was the general gist - and even now after typing that i feel like i want to go take a nice loooooong shower and wash that off me. *shudder*
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Rous
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Okay, now I have to take a shower.  Ewwww. You know, I may not like slash, (and that is my right as much as anyone's to write and read it  ) but, yeah, let us not go OOC to do it. If Aragorn needs his jollies out in the wild, make up a character for him to jolly. The movies made Legolas silly enough, it does not have to be perpetrated in fanfic to the point of squickiness. And what little slash I have come across unawares delved right back into that double standard. Very little chick action. So, if the women can control themselves, why are the guys so weak? I rather dislike a world where the women wait for their man, while he is unable to wait 'til he gets home, therefore, he is out jollying anything in his reach.  |
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Eruanna
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| Quote: | king elessar stood in front of the people, took legolas hand, and annonced, "we are expecting our first child!"
legolas blushed as aragorn bent him over, and like a romantic movie scene, kissed him firmly on the lips...." |
That's hilarious! I hope they were married and that Elessar made an honest elf of Legolas! 
I have to say again (sorry, Beleg...): "Whatever twangs your bowstring..."
--Eruanna
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Texasgirl
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the thing was really disgusting it almost made me .....infact, i'm sure i threw up a little in my mouth. what i wrote doesn't do it justice.
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ZeeDrippyVessel
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Texasgirl wrote: | | the thing was really disgusting it almost made me .....infact, i'm sure i threw up a little in my mouth. what i wrote doesn't do it justice. |
You know... I would prefer a teenaged smitten Legomance to that... 
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Viv
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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The Tolkien power brokers: The Tolkien estate is very involved with for-profit derivative works based on the books. However, the film rights and the book rights belong to different folks, which would explain, in part, why the estate did not have much involvement with the movies. It's very complicated, but I don't think they're one big happy family.
The Tolkien fans: Also not a big happy family. This fandom indulges in infighting like no other fandom I've known. Personally, I enjoy the creative efforts of slashers, hetters, smutters, dwarfers, elfers, hobbiters, menners, canonistas, fangirls (on rare occasion), suethors, sporkers, ivory-towerers, hobbyist linguists, silmfen, and humorists. Did I leave anybody out? Oh, and Mpregs? No, I'm not going to paint the whole subgenre with one big brush. One of the most hilarious things I've ever read was a humour MPreg piece (by Ellbee; look it up). I never discount a thing -- or a person -- just because of its label.
Real-person fic: I write it from time to time, though I'm not entirely comfortable with it. I try to maintain some respect for the subject and refrain from giving that character abhorrent motivations or behaviors. In the end, real-person fic is no different from the tons of pseudo-biographies and biopics that make up stuff about people. And those creators are getting rich off of it, or are using it to enshrine or defame their subjects. RP fic writers are, for the most part, doing this merely to express their appreciation of the actor. They -- we -- do not deserve to be reviled.
| ellbee wrote: | | In fact, I've never seen a Twin het fic that I liked as well as some of the ones that slash them |
I have. 
| miriel361 wrote: | | Although I have heard that Sir Ian McKellen likes to read internet porn. |
Even though it was tasteful (I think), I rather hope he never reads my little bit about him.
| ghettoelleth wrote: | | I don't get it myself, the idea of Eomer and Haldir all oiled up and slidey together is sooo teh hawt |
*snerkle* |
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Viv
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Alassante wrote: | Being brave doesn't mean not being scared. It means being scared and doing it anyway!
The same is true of Pippin, Merry, Sam, and Frodo. The men/elves don't show fear but they have been in battle before so it is different. But like Eomer said - war is not fun. He has no choice but to fight. (not his exact words) |
Good point, Al. The story of the day today speaks to this:
Courage for Our Friends by Pathvain:
http://www.openscrolls.net/fanfic/story.php?no=670
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Texasgirl
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | | ellbee wrote: | | In fact, I've never seen a Twin het fic that I liked as well as some of the ones that slash them |
I have.
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and i am franticly in need of a new story. can you tell us the name, viv?
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Viv
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Texasgirl wrote: | | and i am franticly in need of a new story. can you tell us the name, viv? |
The title is "I'm What?" and it was a nominee in the MEFAs this year. Unfortunately, it's no longer archived on ff.net. Don't know if Ellbee still has it posted somewhere publicly, but it's a hoot. |
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Texasgirl
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thank you!
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Ellbee
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| Viv wrote: | | Texasgirl wrote: | | and i am franticly in need of a new story. can you tell us the name, viv? |
The title is "I'm What?" and it was a nominee in the MEFAs this year. Unfortunately, it's no longer archived on ff.net. Don't know if Ellbee still has it posted somewhere publicly, but it's a hoot. |
Oh, gosh, I couldn't be more surprised to find that thing recced. I took all my stuff down from ff.net because, well, it sucks. Same for aff.net. Oh, gawd, you know what, I think it's archived at an MPREG archive somewhere. I was really surprised they asked for it, but lord knows I never say no. I can't remember the name of the archive, but there's a picture of a glowingly pregnant Legolas on the homepage.
-Ell 
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Texasgirl
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if you remember ellbee, tell us, cuz i'd love to read it!
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Monarchsnake
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 I Knew exactly what archive you all were talking about.
So I went and found Ellbee's Story for you guys.
http://www.geocities.com/anuonnen/a
l/what.htm
Hm, The link wasn't showing up. If It doesn't work for you.
You may just want to go to the archive altogether (And Bear Witness to the cute Preggo Lego ), You should be able to find it easily.
http://www.geocities.com/anuonnen/
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