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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:43 am    Post subject: Random thoughts on a second viewing of ROTK Reply with quote

--The guys who guarded the beacons and lit them? What a boring job that must have been! Good thing nobody ever wandered away from his post.

--The guy who lit the second beacon was jumping around and waving afterwards for no apparent reason. "Oooh, I got a bit part! My first film! Hi, Mom! Actor's Equity, Here I come!"

--Why didn't Faramir and his men throw torches onto the WOODEN boats with the orcs when they were crossing the Anduin at Osgiliath? Flaming arrows, maybe?

--Billy Boyd really impresses me after the second viewing. A little more screen time and I think he would have gotten a Best Supporting Actor nom.

--Flaming arrows would have been just the thing for those siege towers.

--Poor Orlando Bloom got the worst lines. If there was some obvious, "duh" inducing statement, they gave it to the Elf. "Let's go to the Black Gate and draw Sauron's eye away from Frodo!" "A diversion!" "No Shit!"

--I hope Flaming Denethor at least took out a few orcs on his way down. He wasn't much use otherwise.

--Arwen dropping her robe on the path as she ran to see her father. I couldn't help thinking "Kids. After 3000 years she still hasn't learned to use a hanger. Does she think her poor father has nothing better to do than pick up after her?" Razz

--Little Merry dutifully saddling up his pony, getting ready to ride out with the Rohirrim. Bawl The "brave little hobbit" moments get me every time.

--The interaction between Eowyn and Merry was very sweet.

--If the haunted mountain made the horses go crazy, maybe camping there wasn't such a good idea. Huh? Huh? Ya think?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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--Arwen dropping her robe on the path as she ran to see her father. I couldn't help thinking "Kids. After 3000 years she still hasn't learned to use a hanger. Does she think her poor father has nothing better to do than pick up after her?"



Very Happy LMAO! I was thinking the same. The only purpose chucking her fancy cloak on the ground, was so she could flash her cleavage at the audience (and daddy! Embarassed )...

The dress was beautiful.


Did anyone else notice that the Rivvie elves seemed to prefer it if the girls walked and the guys got the horses (Arwen excluded)? My mate pointed this out. There were more gals on foot than guys and they weren't even complaining! Wink

I bet it was so the guys didnt have to stop and ask for directions.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had very similar thoughts on first viewing, and am looking forward to the second. I know this has been covered in another forum topic but ROTK doesn't seem like a very complete film to me; even more than with the other two I think the Extended Edition will make a huge difference. THere's so much even in the trailers that isn't in the film!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Random thoughts on a second viewing of ROTK Reply with quote

Roisin wrote:
--The guys who guarded the beacons and lit them? What a boring job that must have been! Good thing nobody ever wandered away from his post.


I absolutely loved that scene. The music is stirring, the scene layout and the overall visuals are some of the most beautiful things I've ever seen...

... but I had one problem. Why, exactly, where there eight beacons? I remember it being seven. Now, there's a very good chance I'm being an idiot, Embarassed but remember reading that there where seven, right?

Oh well. It doesn't detract from a beautiful scene. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That beacon burning made me so homesick. It reminded me of tramping through the Southern Alps. Sigh.

Yes - wouldn't it have been a boring job. I guess that's why playing dice was so popular.

I also noticed that the guys got to ride while the girls walked. I was also surprised when no-one rode after Arwen - I mean they were supposed to protect her.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Random thoughts on a second viewing of ROTK Reply with quote

Hathor wrote:
Roisin wrote:
--The guys who guarded the beacons and lit them? What a boring job that must have been! Good thing nobody ever wandered away from his post.


I absolutely loved that scene. The music is stirring, the scene layout and the overall visuals are some of the most beautiful things I've ever seen...

... but I had one problem. Why, exactly, where there eight beacons? I remember it being seven. Now, there's a very good chance I'm being an idiot, Embarassed but remember reading that there where seven, right?

Oh well. It doesn't detract from a beautiful scene. Smile


That scene does stay in my mind as one of the most poetic and beautiful in the film; too bad there wasn't more of that kind of lingering attention to detail in ROTK ... btw: Quick check at the Encyclopedia of Arda backs up your memory -- Amon Dîn, Eilenach, Nardol, Erelas, Min-Rimmon, Calenhad and the Halifirien (7); 8 if you count Minas Tirith itself (as in the film not the books).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Random thoughts on a second viewing of ROTK Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Quick check at the Encyclopedia of Arda backs up your memory -- Amon Dîn, Eilenach, Nardol, Erelas, Min-Rimmon, Calenhad and the Halifirien (7); 8 if you count Minas Tirith itself (as in the film not the books).


Ah. Cursed Minas Tirith, making me wonder for my own sanity! I thought they wouldn't make such a big mistake as that...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Random thoughts on a second viewing of ROTK Reply with quote

Hathor wrote:
NancyBrooke wrote:
Quick check at the Encyclopedia of Arda backs up your memory -- Amon Dîn, Eilenach, Nardol, Erelas, Min-Rimmon, Calenhad and the Halifirien (7); 8 if you count Minas Tirith itself (as in the film not the books).

Ah. Cursed Minas Tirith, making me wonder for my own sanity! I thought they wouldn't make such a big mistake as that...

No, No, No ... not a big mistake; in the books the first beacon is lit at Amon Dîn, not Minas Tirith, making 7, as you said.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Random thoughts on a second viewing of ROTK Reply with quote

Roisin wrote:

--Poor Orlando Bloom got the worst lines. If there was some obvious, "duh" inducing statement, they gave it to the Elf. "Let's go to the Black Gate and draw Sauron's eye away from Frodo!" "A diversion!" "No Shit!"
Roisin

Did he SAY anything? Shocked I was too busy drooling ... Drool Bucket He was so ... elven-gorgeous ... though he could have been ther MORE often. LOL sign

Roisin wrote:

--If the haunted mountain made the horses go crazy, maybe camping there wasn't such a good idea. Huh? Huh? Ya think?

Roisin


That was one of the inconsistencies with the book ... I think the Rohirrim have to pass the Sagrary on their way to Gondor but they don't ever get too close to the Dwimorberg ...

Shall have to watch it at least two more times to find MORE peeves ...

GREAT WORK, Roisin!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were a few scenes which were particularly amusing to me, although I doubt that was intentional for the film-makers. I just have that sort of sense of humor. Most of these are about Elrond, my personal sex god. These things really stood out when I saw it for the 4th time Saturday, at the 11:20 showing. The late night movies always draw the more interesting crowd.

1. After Gandalf says, "You are soldiers of Gondor. No matter what comes through that gate, you stand your ground!" speech, and the trolls burst in, he has this look like, "Er, nevermind." A guy in the audience went "Oh sh!t" when they burst through the gate.

2. In the part where Frodo wakes up in bed, and he says, "Gandalf," a guy in the audience (same guy as in #1) mocked him with this really soft girly voice that sounded almost exactly like Frodo's did, only it was funny.

3. Regarding the ugly pink orc and Denethor on fire, I kept thinking how funny it would be to see this in the credits: "Special Appearance by Sean "Puffy" Combs and Richard Pryor."

4. Merry's facial expression after Eowyn grabs him and puts him on her horse. He's like, "Heh-heh. Boobies."

5. Allusions to smoking marijuana whenever Merry and Pippin are around. One wonders what they got into while they were at Rivendell. Imagine them getting into all those herbs Elrond keeps around "for medicinal purposes."

6. The expression on Elrond's face when Arwen returns to Rivendell. It's like he's saying, "And last but not least, I leave my stamp collection to- what the *censored*!"

7. How Elrond looks like he's going to slap Aragorn when the latter starts to get wimpy after Elrond suggests the Paths of the Dead.

8. How Elrond looks like he's going to kill Aragorn for groping Arwen. Especially in public. He might have decided against it because he was wearing white. God I want a pic of him in white.

9. When Elrond goes to the Rohirrim encampment, how is it that NOBODY notices him? "Pay no attention to the mysterious rider in the black cloak. It's not like he's a spy of Sauron or some other evil come to trouble us. No chance of that at all."

10. Theoden staring at Elrond like he's a zoo exhibit just before Aragorn comes in. "C'mon, man. Lemme see your ears. Wow. They really are pointed."

11. Theoden's very quick exit after Aragorn comes to his tent to see Elrond. "Uh, this is obviously an A and B conversation, so I'll just C my way out. Later."

12. Poor Elrond. Poor, poor Elrond. He looked so sad through the whole movie. Especially at the Rohirrim camp. Elrond looked like he cried from the moment he left Rivendell until he got into the camp. He look like he just wiped his eyes for appearance's sake.

Elrond for President!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Jane Doe,

I am at work, a couple of hours away from going home and your post was delectable!!!

I am laughing so hard (and trying to disguise it) that my co-workers may think I am sick (as physically ill, they know about the *other*).

Thank you,

Hippy

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the impression you are an Elrond fan? Wink Very Happy


I loved Gandalf in Minis Tirith! He really held his own and it was great to see him and Pip 'bonding'.

Witchking scene (all Nazgul attack scenes) were excellent - partly because i read a fanfic here by KhazarKhum. (Cursed Queen)

I didnt like Mr Pinks voice (the orc). He sounded like Claw from Insepector Gadget. Totally put me off.

The Mumakills were great! Go Eomer! I couldnt have been the only gal in the cinema squealing for manflesh! So exciting!


The guy next to me was crying buckets. He was all alone. I ended up sharing my M&M's with him outta pity. Grown men crying is so awkward. Makes me hope the extended version fills in all those spots i felt were lacking so i can cry too - and tidies up the sloppy fake endings! Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The late night movies always draw the more interesting crowd.


JaneDoe, I can agree with you there, I went to a late night showing and had the wierdest people there that included:

-Old Woman in third row who insisted upon sobbing with screech-like crying at every possible sad bit.

-Guy falling off chair hald way through.

-A woman in row behind who insisted upon narrating EVERYTHING to her friend, in the end asked her to be quiet and she mumbled but shut up.

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4. Merry's facial expression after Eowyn grabs him and puts him on her horse. He's like, "Heh-heh. Boobies."

9. When Elrond goes to the Rohirrim encampment, how is it that NOBODY notices him? "Pay no attention to the mysterious rider in the black cloak. It's not like he's a spy of Sauron or some other evil come to trouble us. No chance of that at all."

10. Theoden staring at Elrond like he's a zoo exhibit just before Aragorn comes in. "C'mon, man. Lemme see your ears. Wow. They really are pointed."


LOL!

Also, (sorry general ranting (and fear at times) ) I went on to a site, I think it was CoE yesterday and found a girl who said this, and I quote:

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I loved all of the orcs in ROTK, they were so CUTE especially the one who was with Frodo, I mean, I know that he was torturing him and everything, but you've got to love them. I loved Mr Pinks! I thought he was brilliant, he played a really brave orc chieftain. I know that they're horrible, but they're just so sweet


*Takes asprin and attmepts to breathe deeply* Okay, am trying to calm down, but am now slightly scared and afraid, this girl thinks that horrible, disgusting creatures who never wash and torture, kill and generally maim are...cute, is it just me or is there something wrong here?? I checked this girl's name and she's written notes about most orc pictures on the site, when were orcs CUTE???

Anyway, am calming down, sorry if this is irrelevant, but was just slightly...surprised by her reponse to the orcs... Confused Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody agree that Legolas looked prettier than the bride? I wonder what Arwen thought about that Wink !

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote]--The guys who guarded the beacons and lit them? What a boring job that must have been! Good thing nobody ever wandered away from his post.

Haha! I was thinking the exact same thing! I mean trapsing up this huge mountain everyday, sit for hours and then sliding back down. Very Happy God I would have just set the stupid thing on fire to see what would happen, or set myself on fire and jump off the mountain like Denathor. Razz Not really, but they must have had to replace a few of them after they went insane from the boredom.[/quote]

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