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Alassante
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 Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:45 pm Post subject: Questions about Valinor |
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I need some help on descriptions of what Valinor looks like, the layout, and where the elves would live when they come from Middle Earth.
I also need some description of the Ring of Doom as well as Mt. Taniquetil other than the brief description in the Book of Lost Tales part one, if there is any. What I have so far is a short description of Manwë's house and that is was on a field of snow on Mt. Taniquetil.
Also would the Maia live on Mt. Taniquetil with Manwë and Vadar? I am thinking specifically about Eönwë. Someone thought he might live in the same house as Manwë but I wasn't sure.
I do not have all of the HoME books so I didn't know if there was more. The part I have from the Book of Lost Tales was sent to me by Space. (thanks Space!)
Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have the map from Karen Wynn Fonstad's book? That's pretty good. In terms of written descriptions, I'll just blush here and wait for other people to chime in.  |
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Alassante
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | | Do you have the map from Karen Wynn Fonstad's book? That's pretty good. In terms of written descriptions, I'll just blush here and wait for other people to chime in. |
I have two maps - one from Space that she scanned - not sure where it came from - and this one
http://www.lotrlibrary.com/placesofarda/aman.asp
I think that elves from Middle Earth probably live in Eldamar (Elven-home) but I need to make sure that was not something they did in the past or currently do. and of course Eldamar is not on the map that I found. (there is a bay of Eldamar but no actual Eldarmar on the map which makes me wonder if that was not a place from another age that doesn't exist in the 4th age.
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Well, I was having a hard time to find a map of Aman too so... I just made one on my own! It's a little different from the one from Alassantë's link and I don't have the HoME series, but I used my imagination based on the Silmarillion and Essays on Middle-Earth. I believe Eldamar was the name for the lands east of the Pelóri where the Eldar would dwell, although a few did spread to Valimar too.
If you want, you can take a look at the map I made for my fanfic story and tell me if it's any close to any maps you've already found. (The cities of Nimaildor, Cellumos and Eryn Ivor on that map are my creations for the story; the rest is original)
http://www.geocities.com/iluvatars_children/aman.html
Please do tell me if anything seems wrong for me to fix it. And if you wish, I could try and change it and send you a better version! |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Al, the map I scanned for you was from the Wynn Forstad (sp?) book.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: Maps |
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| SpaceWeavil wrote: | | Al, the map I scanned for you was from the Wynn Forstad (sp?) book. |
Yes, "The Atlas of Middle-earth" by Fonstad is a wonderful resource. Wonderful maps.
No scantily clad Elves or Men but we can find that elsewhere.
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That Atlas is an absolute necessity I would buy it before buying any of the HoME series. I would even buy it before the Sil. Wonderful for following along with the Fellowship. It is also nice to have before reading the Sil. It is much easier to visualize the far flung events of the Sil with the Atlas in hand.
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Alassante
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Right now I have them living in Tirion. It was originally where the Noldor and Vanya lived but then they left back in either the first or second age. I am assuming that in the fourth age some would have moved back in. If anyone knows any differently, please tell me.
The only other city that the elves lived in according to what I have read was Alqualonde on the coast but I wanted them to live inland so I put them at Tirion but they visit Alqualonde.
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