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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ick! Did anyone else think Arwens dress at the corination was ugly? Ugh.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things that amused the hell out of me during both my first and second viewings --

1. When Frodo wakes up in Minas Tirith after being rescued and Gandalf is standing there laughing his arse off as Merry and Pippen are jumping up and down on the bed, hugging Frodo and yammering. You just know that Gandalf was thinking to himself - 3 Hobbits in a bed, this would be the start of a great slash fanfic.

2. It was nice to see that Aragorn was finally able to fob off the big, honking Evenstar pendant to dear sweet Eldarion. Every child should have their own glow in the dark flashlight necklace.

3. Why did Denethor take the time to put on a fresh robe and comb his hair neatly before getting ready to jump on the funeral pyre? I wanted to say - Dude, you're going to be crispy fried Denethor in about 3 minutes. Who cares about your personal hygeine?

4. The big dramatic scene in the tent where Elrond whips back his cloak to reveal Anduril. I thought to myself - Good lord, what is he going to whip out and show us?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good lord, what is he going to whip out and show us?



Twisted Evil I was hoping.... For the twins! LOL sign

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moralanqua wrote:
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Good lord, what is he going to whip out and show us?



Twisted Evil I was hoping.... For the twins! LOL sign


Man, I would pay $20 to see the twins. That would have been some rocking action at Pelennor if they had been in the movie. Perhaps they will make an appearance in ROTK, the Extended, Extended Edition.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would that be the Extended, Extended edition which features the shirtless mud wrestling between Eomer and Legolas for the favor of our fair OFC? Bounce

IMO, that was the twins reforging the sword.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the shirtless mud wrestling between Eomer and Legolas



I'd pay to see that. Will there also be Gimli/Merry coleslaw wrestling? Wink


This Extended, extended, super grand deluxe platinum DVD will be priceless!!


ps - IMO, the Twins were reforger elves too. Or at least, we supposed to think that with their crafty editing!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roisin wrote:
Would that be the Extended, Extended edition which features the shirtless mud wrestling between Eomer and Legolas for the favor of our fair OFC? Bounce Roisin


Nope. That would be the Extended, Extended X-rated edition with lots of frisky Elves and feisty former maidens. It is the version of ROTK that is so outrageous, so daring, that it must remain locked forever inside my head for the safety of the world. Laughing

Roisin wrote:
IMO, that was the twins reforging the sword.


Hmm, that might have been the Twinkies, but those Elves had blond hair. And I could not help but notice that the Elf hammering the sword had his butt poked out at an odd angle (well excuse but it was glaringly obvious Embarassed ). It just seems like it would have put a lot of stress on his back to be swinging a heavy tool with his butt in such a weird position. That probably sounds really bad, but you know what I mean Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They looked to me like they had dark hair.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats cause they did. They were named Morhir and Balewath.

They are NOT twins but were shown in trailers and in official pics. It was just the actual released movie that had them all edited and snipped with some black (obvious) shading over one of them. Previous clips had shown the faces. Thats why i think we're being led to assume its the "Twinkies" ( << Very Happy cracked me up!).


Here be pics for you to decide. What do you think?

[url=http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TwDYAgQZEQe2ByLx7U0gLEyDcYd7HU5p5Rn0gcSh8Xk2eEJE4WY1xbu14kdE0Ppiw5b2hcmrwvskSb3qKXk9pOuTnL!5dqwCHzNdjDlDKJDQaRQ8ctY5qA/Blacksmiths0.jpg?dc=4675444368611902107url]Potential "Twinkies"[/url]




[url=http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TQDYAoEY3dzfXwLyXfgfcyadNUvEIarSq7O9j5kom2WNKqzOsGQWNE09z!J!ASgaJ9aJgOaTXNiil4lMEza0fPkCOPnWkotEpxjUjjl1QyRspquOmZv9Uw/blacksmith.jpg?dc=4675443388612070896url]Morhir (or Elrohir? He has his face blacked out in movie)[/url]



[url=http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TgDYAvQYKf*fXwLyXfgfc50z5p1Ff!5o6veyALN3YGF5JHFHjKo0ClD28Ztrc14KxVzk7rBnl50*5kL91vO6XW631nC0XmqccHa*Fp!ZHFl20h6WnsrL8w/blacksmiths.jpg?dc=4675443388623603679url]Balewath (or Elladan. Was shown in movie. Has nice a$$)[/url]

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More thoughts:

12. Is it my imagination, or did the Witch King look so gangsta after Eowyn messed up his ride? Even though he didn't have a face, he looked at her like, "Oh, hell no! B***, I know you didn't just do that!"

13. The Witch King was even scarier than Sauron. He had that not-quite-amongst-the-living vibe about him that really freaked me out. That and one hell of a ride.

14. Throughout the trilogy, I kept thinking how easy it would be to do a hip-hop interpretation of LotR. All the different peoples would be gangs, and the different places would be districts in the same city. Sauron would be the oppressive authority figure. It could work. Whether or not it could work if taken seriously is another matter entirely.

15. I loved how Elrond barely kept it together when Arwen and Aragorn met again in Minas Tirith. "I'm not gonna cry. Not gonna cry. Not gonna cry. Get that camera out of my face."

16. How Bilbo nearly tripped and fell when he ran to Elrond at the Grey Havens. I was thinking, "Slow down before you break your hip, Bilbo."

17. Is it my imagination, or is it a law that says actors working in New Zealand must work on Xena before embarking on other projects?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jane Doe asked if all NZ actors have to be in Xenia?

Well it's like this NZ has about 3 million people, we don't have that many actors and before Jackson we didn't have a lot of major film-making going on down there. This meant that alot of actors had to go to Oz (Australia) or the US for work. so they were really grateful when they got offered something in NZ. Hence the first time I saw FOTR, I was going - hey! that's the guy that was in this soap or that comedy show. Same with TT and ROTK - a real who's who of NZ acting history.

As to the twins... I've been watching the additional stuff on TT. Jackson was saying about how they visited forums and listened to what the fans had to say. That's one of the major reasons why they decided that Arwen wouldn't go to Helm's Deep and the reason why Legolas got to kill that giant elephant. Now push that a little further - Jackson read how popular the twins were and decided to add them. All he had to do was retouch up a bit of the film and voila nots of happy female fans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:53 am    Post subject: doesn't the audience just make the viewing better Reply with quote

The secind time around my hubby and I saw it together, I was so happy hubby and Return of the King Kiss The show starts, this time I had to see the previews boring, on Trilogy Tuesday no credits. So then this couple sat down next to me, oh my goodness, she had no clue what was going on and kept leaning over to her boyfriend saying what, who, what is he doing blah blah blah, I wanted to lean over and give her an overview Evil or Very Mad . Then her beau says "just try to watch it, it will make sense", I am like thank you dude I just may slap her, then the scene with Gollum and Frodo and Sam at the stairs of Cirith Ungul comes and she starts huffing and puffing and fidgeting, I kept thinking someone throw popcorn in her hair. Finally, she stood up and told him "lets go", poor guy she drug him out of the theater right when the witch king comes flying out. Well, that taken care of I got to watch in peace.
I noticed a couple things the second time:
First I noticed that the movie seemed a little too short, why, well because I felt that there was stuff missing like a conversation cut between Theoden and Elrond and that is why Theoden glared at Aragorn. I bet it was "I am Elrond and Aragorn is King of Gondor and he is marrying my daughter so tell Eowyn hands off. " I wish there had been more dialogue for both Legolas and Eomer. I felt that the seeing that Horse god riding to war and then suporting Aragorn in the ride to the black gates could have been added. And just for looksee why not more of Legolas I mean didn't he look sweet Wink all cleaned up with his crown on.

Did anyone feel at all irritated about the deviation from the Sam and Frodo relationhip? I felt almost ill at the thought Frodo sent him home. It made me cry the first time but the second time I thought "Why?" Couldn't Sam have journeyed into the lair with Frodo like in the book. I suppose Peter Jackson wanted Sam to be the Hero but I don't think Sam would have given up like that. Just curious what you all thought.
I would love to see it again with a bunch of fanatic fans, I really missed the applause, cheers, and the joy of being there when I saw it the second time.
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I wonder if Rob will have a countdown clock for the EEROTK, that was so much fun. I miss it, any one else?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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14. Throughout the trilogy, I kept thinking how easy it would be to do a hip-hop interpretation of LotR. All the different peoples would be gangs, and the different places would be districts in the same city. Sauron would be the oppressive authority figure. It could work. Whether or not it could work if taken seriously is another matter entirely.


LOL! Yeah an LOTR WestSide Story

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After seeing it for the third time, I noticed some stuff through my haze of tears.

-When Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, Gandalf, and Eomer ride up to the Black Gate. It's like... all somebody has to do is come over the wall and shoot five arrows and ALL our heros are dead. BIG tactical error.

-Why were THREE eagles sent to pick up TWO hobbits?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Gandalf knew that Gollum was travelling with them at that point, but didn't know if he was still with them, so maybe he thought he would be a nice wizard and save Gollum too?

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