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TrissMarigold
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| Quote: | Now I see why you've changed your avvie (verrrry nice BTW)
Good luck, I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Thanks Binka,
I'm not sure where I found this avvie (s not my creation obviously) but it fits well with my current state of mind.
My head hurts after the exam... I hate those multiple choice tests.
Two more to go. Psychopathology is next  At least that one is interesting.
Thanks Silvae, and good luck to Elentari.
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inglor
Joined: 26 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Guess I'll try to rerail this derail 
Let me preface this with:It is apparent that in ME, power was hereditary and the further away you got from Finwe, Elwe and Ingwe, and Feanor the more it diminished.
And add to what Spacey said:
Some things to remember: 2 elves had already taken on Sauron head to head. Finrod ended up kibble and Celebrimbor ended up a banner. Orodreth and a whole city of elves ran from him in fear. And regarding the Numenoreans, Nasty #2 knew his forces didn't stand a chance against them, but he knew Men's greed could be turned against them and used to his advantage. The only time Sauron was ever defeated was when he was tagteamed. Once by a demigoddess (who put one over on his boss) and demigod dog and the second an Elfking and Numenorean (who both died in the fight), and then he was only diminshed, not truly defeated.
In the 3rd Age, there was only one Elf alive that could have challenged him face to face (maybe two). Galadriel and maybe Cirdan (again, my opinion). If you could have gotten all the remaining Elflords together, Gal, Celeborn, Thranduil, Cirdan, Glorfindel and Elrond, they may have been able to do something face to face but several of them would not have survived the encounter. Even Gandalf (a Maia) was afraid to take him on.
As to the effect of the Ring on his power, IMHO it bound him closer to ME and its inhabitants and thereby magnified his power of command. I could write two more pages on my theories about this but in the end I think he ruled by fear and the Ring may have magnified this. One of Borimir's biggest weaknesses seemed to be his fear and hopelessness for his homeland and the Ring preyed on that. So that, to me, is one of the Ring's most powerful properties, the ability to play on a person's weaknesses and Sauron could direct that.
Bleh, sorry for the pontificating...
To answer your question: Yep the Elves were diminished and to challenge him to a duel, they would have had to get through his legions first. They didn't call it the Last Alliance for nothing.
I need a drink
Inglor
Oh and it was Fingolfin who took on Morgoth
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ghettoelleth
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| inglor wrote: | Guess I'll try to rerail this derail
Let me preface this with: Goes on to write a freaking thesis here
Then outs himself 
To answer your question: Yep the Elves were diminished and to challenge him to a duel, they would have had to get through his legions first. They didn't call it the Last Alliance for nothing.
I need a drink
Inglor
Oh and it was Fingolfin who took on Morgoth Will this madness never end? |
Dude, this is you crying out for  you don't need a drink, you need an intervention and flipping page detox 
All the peeps what care:  The first step to recovery is recognizing you have a problem...we're here for you man...nice and easy....one day at a time....just put the books down and no one has to kno  w....The stages of recovery
1. Anger 
2. Catatonic withdrawl
3. 4 month nap  
4. shock
5. shame 
6. Make peace with all the twits ya done wronged. 
7. go out and get a normal addiction like dope  alcohol  crack  porn  < pole dancer or Visit your local post office and give them the results of their latest Employee Satisfaction Evaluation   
But for Eru's sake man, stop being so damn weird!
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inglor
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Does it count if I've already skipped to #7
I luv you too ghetto
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ghettoelleth
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| inglor wrote: | Does it count if I've already skipped to #7
I luv you too ghetto |
Only if you're doing all five at once...and your naked.
I may add more stipulations later depending on how well my afternoon goes. Pray for the muse!!
A crack pipe in one hand, an uzi in the other, is there any better way to get to know your neighbor?
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