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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even just one time is hard enough, twice is a nightmare. I am not thinking about what might have happened the third time. Just looking forward to January, marvelling at the weirdest things now or getting fired up about the most odd things.. I think Inglor nailed it down with his advice: say always.. yes dear. *grin*
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: Thank you Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
Do you know if its a baby girl or boy yet? Or maybe one of each? Shocked Hopefully by now you are past all of the morning sickness and are just in the exciting "I'm gonna have a baby" Very Happy phase now.

Last ultrasound the tech said it looked like a baby girl but that it's never 100% accurate... so unless I have complications that would require another scan, this is as sure as we'll be until "Labour Day". Smile

I had four months solid of morning sickness, which is a very odd term considering it's 24/7, often worse in the evenings. As for being excited, not really. I'm sure some would label me as ungrateful for my nonchalant attitude but I guess I'm too worried about what she'll do when she hits 13 for going all gooey now at the prospect of this little bundle of joy coming into our lives. In fact, I don't think I've ever referred to it as a 'bundle of joy'. For now I'm still working the evening shift full time, going through my 5th week of the flu and busy 'nesting', so I haven't had much time to just sit and marvel at it all. The only real contact with her and reminder that what's causing all these changes in me (most uncomfortable ones at that) is in fact human and alive is when she's moving around and kicking my organs around. But again that has its downside of keeping me awake or waking me up when I've finally managed to sleep two hours straight without having to get up for a loo trip.

So as you can see, I'm not the all excited type yet. I hope it'll come though.

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For Do, wow your first time. I am so happy that it is smooth sailing for you. I have been in the grip of fear the past months.

Ah, smooth sailing, I don't know. I kinda find it hard work, don't you? But yeah, I haven't had to worry about miscarriage like you've had, so smooth sailing on that front for sure. We had another possible health risk to deal with but it turned out that it didn't rear its ugly head so that's good too. All the best to you.

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Do? Any weird cravings? Wife didn't have any but we should now own part of Blue Bell Icecream. Went through gallons of Dutch Chocolate.

No weird cravings, no. But changes in tastes. Things I used to love I don't like anymore and vice versa. And I noticed that when I get hungry it's usually really quick and I just got to eat that minute. I don't eat much (less than before) but when it hits, I gotta eat. I lately got very fond of chips (French fries for some of you), ice cream, and after totally losing interest in chocolate for the first trimester, it's now back. I do miss my Ben & Jerry's, which is unavailable here in Oz.

Thanks again to everyone for the well wishes. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Thank you Reply with quote

dolarabee wrote:
Alassante wrote:
Do you know if its a baby girl or boy yet? Or maybe one of each? Shocked Hopefully by now you are past all of the morning sickness and are just in the exciting "I'm gonna have a baby" Very Happy phase now.

Last ultrasound the tech said it looked like a baby girl but that it's never 100% accurate... so unless I have complications that would require another scan, this is as sure as we'll be until "Labour Day". Smile

I had four months solid of morning sickness, which is a very odd term considering it's 24/7, often worse in the evenings. As for being excited, not really. I'm sure some would label me as ungrateful for my nonchalant attitude but I guess I'm too worried about what she'll do when she hits 13 for going all gooey now at the prospect of this little bundle of joy coming into our lives. In fact, I don't think I've ever referred to it as a 'bundle of joy'. For now I'm still working the evening shift full time, going through my 5th week of the flu and busy 'nesting', so I haven't had much time to just sit and marvel at it all. The only real contact with her and reminder that what's causing all these changes in me (most uncomfortable ones at that) is in fact human and alive is when she's moving around and kicking my organs around. But again that has its downside of keeping me awake or waking me up when I've finally managed to sleep two hours straight without having to get up for a loo trip.

So as you can see, I'm not the all excited type yet. I hope it'll come though.


Awww poor Do! You got ripped off. Morning sickness is supposed to stop sooner than four months. I have always heard that girls make you sicker though. I had a boy so I don't know. And having the flu that long is so not fair. You sound like you have been too sick and most likely too tired to get very excited. I am sure it will happen when you finally get better. Tell Robbie you need to go to Cancun or the Bahamas to finally get over the flu - you know, the hot sun and tropical air will cure it. Wink Tell the boss its for your health and all.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole "girls make your morning sickness worse" probably depends on the person. For instance, I was my mom's easiest pregnancy and most sedate baby, while my little brother gave her such bad morning sickness through the whole nine months that she went vegetarian. Minimal dairy products, no meats, mostly salads. The only thing that didn't make her noxious was watermelon. On the other hand, my sister had two girls, and was sick the whole nine monts with both of them. So, in my observation, it probably depends on the baby. I've also known people that had two boys, and the first pregnancy, she was sick the entire time, but the second was a breeze.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As to morning sickness and gender, well my daughter was a breeze, 2 months a little icky in the morning (so I switched my shifts to afternoon) but otherwise clear sailing - to the point that I went on waitressing until about 3 weeks before she was born.
The boys I was sick every evening from 5 pm onward for 5 months solid - then again, it's always worse with twins. Would have been ok after that except for the meds they had me on to prevent pre-term labor; if they ever offer you Terbutaline, it works but you'll wish it didn't - 2 weeks of hell (itching, sleeplessness, nausea & 10lb water-weigh gain overnight!!) until they let me go.
But I had a friend who had 3 girls and had a little sickness with the first, solid 9 month ickies with the second and nothing at all with the third.... Who knows??

But everybody experiences it differently, physically and emotionally.. I'm willing to bet that if it isn't love at first sight, it will certainly strike before long Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Thank you Reply with quote

dolarabee wrote:
As for being excited, not really. I'm sure some would label me as ungrateful for my nonchalant attitude but I guess I'm too worried about what she'll do when she hits 13 for going all gooey now at the prospect of this little bundle of joy coming into our lives. In fact, I don't think I've ever referred to it as a 'bundle of joy'.

So as you can see, I'm not the all excited type yet. I hope it'll come though.

Well I'm here in the cranky corner, the voice of experience, to tell you it's okay to feel pissy. Just try not to take it out on Robbie too much; you'll need him latter to fetch and carry.

I'm sure you need more advice like a hole in the head but it's the perogative of mothers to pass on advice and outgrown clothes whether the expectant mother wants them or not, so:

The biggest favor you can do yourself is not to compare yourself or your kid to anyone else, which is hard. You will love your daughter/son as YOU will, not as anyone else believes you should. I think a realistically unrosy view is probably the most healthy.

I don't think it's a secret, I struggle with motherhood. My kid is a pistol - very mentally and emotionally demanding - and I don't think I ever feel that rosy motherhood glow - deep love, yes; rosy glow, no. And it's even beyond love: my girl's a part of me, now, that's all - no good or bad to it because it's irreversible. It's like asking, do you love your heart or brain?

And if your experience right now is tough and your feeling resentful or whatever that's not even uncommon, just in violation of the sacred mother myth. And when you have the little darling, things could be wonderful and unbelievably irritating at the same time. It's a secret a lot of folks won't cop to, but Motherhood can make you pissed as hell. That's okay, too, and you'll find a way to deal with it (which is why I spend so much time on OSA).

All of which is to say, I believe you'll be fine, however you are.

Do wrote:
But again that has its downside of keeping me awake or waking me up when I've finally managed to sleep two hours straight without having to get up for a loo trip.

Good plan to start the sleep deprivation now: you'll be well prepared for those midnight feedings!

Best of luck - NB

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Thank you Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Good plan to start the sleep deprivation now: you'll be well prepared for those midnight feedings!


LOL Hadn't planned it but yeah, sleep deprivation pretty much ever since the 6th week. Nausea could get so bad at night that I couldn't sleep and then the pee runs, well, they were every two hours or so during the first trimester...

But I'm not resentful toward the kid, more toward whoever designed us this way. And sometimes, jokingly, towards Rob. Why do men have it so damn easy? He's planning to be at the pub during my labour... you can imagine I'm already shopping for a double-barrel shotgun.

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Best of luck


Cheers, Nancy.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Thank you Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:

And if your experience right now is tough and your feeling resentful or whatever that's not even uncommon, just in violation of the sacred mother myth. And when you have the little darling, things could be wonderful and unbelievably irritating at the same time. It's a secret a lot of folks won't cop to, but Motherhood can make you pissed as hell. That's okay, too, and you'll find a way to deal with it (which is why I spend so much time on OSA).


AMEN!!!

Anybody who tries to make you feel like you ought to be, should be, (why the hell aren't you) doing everything by the book, easily and with grace, you have the right to smack in the back of the head. Mothers don't become saints by magical hormonal transformation - sometimes quite the contrary... And if it ain't politic to smack the insecure perfectionists out there, come on over and bitch, dear:) We'll paint them purple and have a laugh Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do men have it so damn easy?


GOT IT EASY?!?!? Do you have ANY idea on how hard it will be to find a pub that will stay open for 18 hours straight (or however long it takes you). And what's more, to be able to stay sober enough to take a photo when it's all said and done without falling over.

You don't find books on Amazon entitled "The BoyFriend's Guide To 24 hour boozing", "Up the Duff Beer" or "What to expect when the pump runs dry" (followed by the sequel "What to expect when the pub closes").

No, no, no, no, no. No helpful hints or tips to help ME get through it.

And you manage to lose your belly, whilst I just put it back on. And I can't just visit the stores and get Paternity clothes with added space for the beer belly - there are no special sections for men.

I didn't drag you off to "boozing classes" and show horrow videos of empty beer glasses <shudder> or how you can drink standing up, liying down, on your side, leaning against a bar or even underwater in the bath (now you try that!).

I've not got you to practice deep breathing whilst downing a pint. Or how to relax when there is a queue at the bar.

I've not got "paternity pads" to allow me to avoid wetting "down there" after the pub kicks me out.

Easy?! It's you that has no idea of what I'm going to have to go through without any help or support what so ever.

Geesh, gimme a break. Or a drink.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbie wrote:
GOT IT EASY?!?!? Do you have ANY idea on how hard it will be to find a pub that will stay open for 18 hours straight (or however long it takes you). And what's more, to be able to stay sober enough to take a photo when it's all said and done without falling over.

You don't find books on Amazon entitled "The BoyFriend's Guide To 24 hour boozing", "Up the Duff Beer" or "What to expect when the pump runs dry" (followed by the sequel "What to expect when the pub closes").

No, no, no, no, no. No helpful hints or tips to help ME get through it.
<snip>

Easy?! It's you that has no idea of what I'm going to have to go through without any help or support what so ever.

Geesh, gimme a break. Or a drink.

Beer Twisted Evil


Oh Robbie, my husband was ranting about almost the same last night (I hope I can remember it). There seems to be a tv-show named how to become a daddy... he watched it for five minutes and switched channels after a couple of minutes. Not that it was so horrible, but nooo, the daddy to be (poor guy) was judged by a panel of five women who told him exactly what he was doing wrong (what happened with positive feedback?). Now what kind of help is that? He said that if it were men judging that poor man, then it would be completely different.

So yes, he hears you... totally.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhapsody wrote:
[He said that if it were men judging that poor man

A sort of "Queer Eye for a Straight Daddy" kind of thing? Not my cup of tea either!

Actually - it wasn't really a complaint - the rant above was a joke intended to make people laugh. Do and I have (hopefully) been doing a lot together and are reading together the real versions of the books above (as well as others). Someone on this list even bought a present for me entitled "my boys can swim". So I hope I'm as prepared as Do is, if not more-so and can do what's necessary to help.

But I do know it's going be very tough on both of us - especially if I do my job right. I accept that it'll be a hell of a lot easier for me than for wifey, but still could be one of the toughest and most worrying things I'm going to go through too. So do have some sympathy for the partners, even a teensy bit helps.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beer Laughing And with a little luck, it will take less than 18 hours!! Very Happy Sorry, lads, we do tend to... well, gloss over the "men" facts when we find ourselves with something so essentially female as motherhood and labor Wink If we didn't appreciate y'all's efforts, we'd keep you in breeding ranches and just visit Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SilverMoonLady wrote:
Beer Laughing And with a little luck, it will take less than 18 hours!!


*gulp* I was born in less then a half an hour...

think happy thoughts... think happy thoughts..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbie wrote:
Actually - it wasn't really a complaint - the rant above was a joke intended to make people laugh.

Which it certainly did, in my case. I think, with that sense of humor and love for Do, you'll be a perfect partner/father/pub crawler!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Robbie,

Rocheron says he'd be glad to step in and share his own pub crawling techniques!!! See, that kind of info is better shared one on one, sorta man to man and that's whey there aren't any books.

so... there ya go. Beer



(yes your comments were funny and the humor did not mask your support for Do at all. Enjoy whatever of these experiences are memorable - and don't sweat the rest. Your sense of humor is gonna serve you SO well!) Big Wink

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