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KhazarKhum
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Well, doesn't Legolas count as an elf??? 
I suspect PJ let them all die at Helm's Deep as a way of illustrating their passage from this world. |
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Andreth
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| BittenBuggy wrote: | I choose to think that he hid them in his pants all the time. Mostly because I like thinking about Aragorn's pants...  |
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Robbie
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Andreth wrote: |
Yes, Peter Jackson chose to leave the Tom Bombadil portion out |
Ileft the Tom Bonbadill part out too. In fact, it put me of read the rest of the book!
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Varda
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Personally I'm of the opinion that Tom Bombadil is the incarnated spirit of Arda (ie. sort of like Gaia/Mother Nature on Earth). We know he's the oldest living being and that he's fatherless and immortal/ageless, at the same time we know he's not Eru and that he didn't come into Ea from outside the World. He can't be a Maia (besides the ring would affect him then) nor a Vala [a Vala would be unaffected by the ring, however one could not accuse a Vala of forgetting about the ring, not to mention that a Vala could most likely destroy the ring with a mere application of Will, or could simply walk into Mordor and cast the ring into Orodruin without meating any notable resistance - remember the Valar shaped the world creating mountains where and when they pleased, there's no force in Middle Earth now that could stop a Vala (since Morgoth is banished)]. He's not an Elf cause of the manner in which Elrond speaks of him at the council. Etc. Etc. Etc...
 Besides who are all you people to question my knowledge
Besides he was here in Arda ere our (Morgoth, Manwe and I) coming into Ea, and we were the first to come from outside, so obviously he's a part of this world in a deeper sense then any of Us or you.
Notice that his power being restrained to within his borders seems to limit him - until you realize that these are borders he himself set down - so it's not so much that he's limited by the borders, as rather that he refuses to cross them (of course a good question is why?). His main driving force appears to be curiosity and love for Nature - both fit the incarnated Spirit of Ea hypothesis.
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BittenBuggy
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That's all way too complicated for me Varda. Speculation makes my brain hurt... 
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NancyBrooke
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Andreth wrote: | | nosferangel wrote: | | what is the difference, if there is one, between Eorlingas and Rohirrim, and is the Medusafeld the same as the Golden Hall? |
No difference, same people. Eorlingas is what the Rohirrim call themselves, signifying their allegiance to Eorl. And yes, Meduseld is the Golden Hall. |
Before I saw this post I put a little more detail into a post in the "Rohirrim and Eorlingas" topic elsewhere in this forum:
http://www.openscrolls.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3566 |
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Andreth
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| Robbie wrote: | | Andreth wrote: |
Yes, Peter Jackson chose to leave the Tom Bombadil portion out |
Ileft the Tom Bonbadill part out too. In fact, it put me of read the rest of the book! |
Now, Rob, I think you're underestimating old Tom's appeal. You have to look at him in a different light, like I do. Think about it: garish yellow boots, a big feather on the side of his hat, walking around saying 'Ho' a lot - you know what that spells for me? P-I-M-P. A pimp daddy, that's Tom. Goldberry even calls him Master.
Let this be a lesson. Pain medication + boring convalescence + internet access + open forum = well... probably doesn't equal a good idea. |
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BittenBuggy
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Tom always reminded me of Santa Clause. But now I'll never get the "pimping" (wow I feel uncomfortable saying that, guess it's the white girl in me  ) image out of my head.
Thanks a lot Andreth 
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