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MetteBL
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 Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:27 am Post subject: Survey on fanfiction |
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Dear Fanwriters,
We are two students from Aalborg University, Denmark, who are writing a paper on fan fiction. More specifically we are interested in finding out what it means for fans to be able to get your writings published on the Internet, and what it means for you to be part of a community. For that purpose we have created an online survey for fan writers to fill out.
If you write fan fiction please click on the link and take the survey.
http://www.psofact.com/survey_2/survey.php?sid=28
Thank you for your time and understanding!
Yours respectfully,
Heidi B. W. Jensen & Mette B. Laursen
Aalborg University |
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NancyBrooke
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Anybody done it? (Besides me, that is - internet hoax warnings be damned  )
Whadya think?
I thought they missed one particularly salient aspect of fanfic writing (particularly relevant to me so of course I thought it important), which is that I'm anonymous from you all (well, in name and face if not personality), and from my friends 'outside', too. Aside from Tommy the Hub, nobody else knows I, (insert non-net name here), do this. Which is to say there's a level of discomfort somewhere in the process.
What do you all think? (not about me, but about the survey).
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SpaceWeavil
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | Anybody done it? (Besides me, that is - internet hoax warnings be damned )
Whadya think?
I thought they missed one particularly salient aspect of fanfic writing (particularly relevant to me so of course I thought it important), which is that I'm anonymous from you all (well, in name and face if not personality), and from my friends 'outside', too. Aside from Tommy the Hub, nobody else knows I, (insert non-net name here), do this. Which is to say there's a level of discomfort somewhere in the process.
What do you all think? (not about me, but about the survey). |
I thought it was a very good survey (though I was waiting for someone else to do it first, for fear of hoaxy virus type things. Ok, so I am a coward).
I never really thought of the anonymity thing, as that's never really been a part of it for me. When I first started in fan fiction (not LOTR though) I wrote under my own name, and all my screennames were my own name. I came into the forums and groups to meet other people who liked the same shows and characters as I did, since I couldn't find anyone in RL who had even heard of things like The Prisoner, Sapphire and Steel or UFO.
I only changed to 'Space Weavil' after I had a run in with a particularly nasty fan in that old fandom, who took a grudge against me and was following me about the internet for a while. Originally I changed my AIM screenname just to stop her sending odd messages to me, and the name kind of stuck. (Though I am now no longer Space Weavil, but 'Species', apparently, hehe, which I find kinda cute. Ghetto is so adorable when she makes up nicknames)
I don't have a hubby to confide in, but I have no bones about telling people this is my hobby. And though in this part of Scotland there is very much an atmosphere of 'if you don't conform and just be cynical and do what we all do, you are some sort of monster to be feared and loathed, the majority of people I've met have reacted either nonplussed or positively. The number of people who've said things like 'oh, I wish I could do that but, ohhh, I couldn't.'
I'm the first one to admit that I don't have much of a social life in RL. Besides work and university I don't have much contact with people. But to be honest, that is my choice as I'm not a pub or club person, and so I indulge my passion for writing when I get home of a night. Most people I know kind of get that about me.
One thing I thought on the survey though was that the reasons for writing were fairly spot on. And I did enjoy giving my opinion on why some authors are more popular than others. Boy did that get some bile out of my system, heh!
So, after all my ramblings. Anyone else take it?
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ghettoelleth
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| Duchess trying to fry my brains first thing in the am with salty fan fic and big ass words wrote: | | What do you all think? (not about me, but about the survey). |
I think you're lovely and I also think your real name is probably Figalilly and you work as a tile maker for scrabble.
No anonymomomity here. Evereyone knows my business outside the net. No shame in my game. I'm too slow to come up with that many excuses for missing Bunko night with the laydeez.
I don't know if I want to pariticpate in something like this which will ultimately, though on no grand scale I'm sure, be used as a tool, much like that stupid Mary Sue test thing-ah-mah-bob, to pigeon-hole individuals and their artistic endeavors which, if life were fair would be judged, not by the star fister, nor any other device but on the merit of the individual work alone.
I stopped choosing what I read based on bullshit assumptions when I discovered that one of my favorite authors writes about stuff that normally would have me in a coma inside a minute and a half and works that, per my own tastes, should be favorites that I can't seem to get past the first page of. IMHO of course, but no thanks. I'll wait for the research project that will tell me where my brain goes when I get on one of those wonderful writing jags where the mind sort of drifts away and when I get back I've typed 10 pages of pretty damn good stuff. (Maybe, someday my brain will bring back all the missing sox from the dryer.  )
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ghettoelleth
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OH MY LORD, I really am sorry, you see the kingdom where I come from is bereft of the full stop.  
Off to hide my visage in shame before I am floated off the edge of this iceburg 
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SpaceWeavil
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| ghettoelleth wrote: |
I don't know if I want to pariticpate in something like this which will ultimately, though on no grand scale I'm sure, be used as a tool, much like that stupid Mary Sue test thing-ah-mah-bob, to pigeon-hole individuals and their artistic endeavors which, if life were fair would be judged, not by the star fister, nor any other device but on the merit of the individual work alone.
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I just can't resist surveys. It's the only time I can pretend like my opinion actually matters to someone.
Hear you on the star fister. 
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Rhapsody
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | Anybody done it? (Besides me, that is - internet hoax warnings be damned )
Whadya think? |
I support research where ever I come across it. This was a solid questionairre although I would love to know what they do with the results.
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I thought they missed one particularly salient aspect of fanfic writing (particularly relevant to me so of course I thought it important), which is that I'm anonymous from you all (well, in name and face if not personality), and from my friends 'outside', too. Aside from Tommy the Hub, nobody else knows I, (insert non-net name here), do this. Which is to say there's a level of discomfort somewhere in the process. |
When I went through the questions I could see what they wanted to research and your wish feels like the odd one out. If your deepest wish is anonymity (right? or am I missing something here?).. I wonder what that has to do with the motivation to write and fan fic specifically. What is your drive to write things? That is what they want to know. Not with how you want to feel with being online overall. That is a complete different subject.
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NancyBrooke
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| Rhapsody wrote: | | If your deepest wish is anonymousity (right? or am I missing something here?).. |
No, not my deepest wish, not for its own sake, certainly. I just want to keep my fanfic writing under wraps; I guess I just don't have as supportive a community among my friends as it sounds like many of you do. I've had enough of being seen as wierd or geeky or whatever the other-of-the-moment is. For example, tell people you've seen the Grateful Dead more than twice and they stop seeing you as anything but a stoner and close-to-cult-member-as-makes-no-difference. Now try telling a co-worker   ... Even among my very close friends, many of whom are Tolkien fans, I think fanfic writing would be seen as going too far ...
| Rhapsody wrote: | | I wonder what that has to do with the motivation to write and fan fic specifically. |
Nothing whatsoever. It has to do with community, specifically questions 14 & 15.
That is a great typo, Rhaps! Very funny and interesting.
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Maram68
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| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | | No, not my deepest wish, not for its own sake, certainly. I just want to keep my fanfic writing under wraps; I guess I just don't have as supportive a community among my friends as it sounds like many of you do. I've had enough of being seen as wierd or geeky or whatever the other-of-the-moment is. For example, tell people you've seen the Grateful Dead more than twice and they stop seeing you as anything but a stoner and close-to-cult-member-as-makes-no-difference. Now try telling a co-worker ... Even among my very close friends, many of whom are Tolkien fans, I think fanfic writing would be seen as going to far ... |
I can definitely realte to that 100 %. In a country where geekdom is quite limited, I am already looked at with my few "visible" quirks.
I have been most gratified for finding likeminded people in the fandom who I am proud to call my friends in real life but that I have met through fanfiction. And yes, we talked for hours about everything under the sun including the Silm and elf-smut  .
I did the survey quite early. I am a meme lover and I do believe in surveys being a powerful tool of research.
My hubby KNOWS I am out here and a couple of persons where actually able to find me on the net. But else ... well I've managed to keep a low profile except to those I wanted to reveal myself.
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| NancyBrooke wrote: |
That is a great typo, Rhaps! Very funny and interesting. |
Sorry about that, I will have my post next time double checked by my beta.
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Neniel
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Well, I sort of relate to both the anonymity and geek-tags part! Some people are more confident than others about their writing; for those of us that are not, anonymity can be a blessing. The only person that even suspects I'm into this sort of stuff is my sister (who knows everything about me anyway... it's kinda scary when I think about it... ) and the two single times I asked her to read something for me and give me her opinion she burst out laughing... I admit I'm not that good, but she kept laughing for 20 damned minutes!!! 
OK, so, after that the alias jumbed in and everyone else I know remains in blissful ignorance. 
PS: Over here, people don't even know what fanfiction is and the very idea seemed laughable to a couple of my friends I tried to hint at. When even mentioning the LotR tags a person as a Tolkien geek, what do you think explaining fanfiction might do?
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I'm with NB. I'm a closet geek and I'd like it to stay that way. I live in a very conservative (snooty), old, big small town and anything out of the norm is shunned and/or derided, and no one ever forgets. (one of my freinds got fileted for putting his mug on a dating site) I have one very good friend who knows I write, but he is a geek too, though not a Tolgeek. And my wife has no choice She thinks I'm a nerd anyway, but a cute one.
This place is like an addiction to me. I can come here (and other forums) and talk about whether Finwe had 5 kids or 3 and not laughed at or get the  look.
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| Quote: | No, not my deepest wish, not for its own sake, certainly. I just want to keep my fanfic writing under wraps; I guess I just don't have as supportive a community among my friends as it sounds like many of you do. I've had enough of being seen as wierd or geeky or whatever the other-of-the-moment is. For example, tell people you've seen the Grateful Dead more than twice and they stop seeing you as anything but a stoner and close-to-cult-member-as-makes-no-difference. Now try telling a co-worker ... Even among my very close friends, many of whom are Tolkien fans, I think fanfic writing would be seen as going to far ...
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I feel the same way but i don't fear being viewed as weird or geeky; well weird but not geeky. I even have a hard time posting stories here *will someone thing i'm weird* If anyone knew who i was in rl and what i wrote i would be mortified! I don't know why, i just would be....embarassed. I guess its my guilty pleasure.
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ghettoelleth
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I love California. Tell someone here you write fan fic and the look of relief is comical, always nice to know that you're neighbor isn't amassing an arsenal and still holding a grudge over that little'incident' with the weed whacker and their dog.
What surprises me about alot of my fanfic friends is the fact that their spouses are unaware that they are doing this. It surprises me even more when it is someone who is particularly talented with the pr0n. Whose husband wouldn't want to know this? My husband is a bit confused by the whole jealousy dynamic. His philosophy is. THEY'RE NOT REAL. And who doesn't want to play stunt double for a fake guy who gets laid alot.
My husband, my 18 year old son, and my husband's friend Aaron are all in love with Al...I don't even want to know, lol.
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NeumeIndil
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Okay, so my level of anonymity(sp?) goes into something strange. People here, if ya'll decided to sit down and talk and had a computer, could probably show up on my doorstep if you wanted to. Some users have seen pics, a lot of users know my real name (spe. those I beta for), I know I've said things about where I live and where I've worked, as well as my course of study in college, my tastes in music and a whole lot more. I haven't kept much of my RL self off of the net.
But here's the thing; some of my R.L. friends know I beta, none of them know I write. I have another friend who reads fic and I've admitted to her that I read too (which was almost harder than admitting I'm Pagan), though she doesn't know I write or beta, and I hope like heck she doesn't find my stuff. I'm not concerned about being anonymous online and I'm not so concerned that people know I read fan fic, but there's something daunting about looking at friends and saying "Yeah, I write fan fiction" (particularly when you're supposedly going to be a novelist or something in the future) that makes me wanna keep it under wraps.
A friend and Magic, The Gathering/Dungeons & Dragons/Sci Fi geek caught something I said in conversation the other day and asked with the "oh you naughty girl" tone of voice if I write fan fiction. I fell back on my usual, cool "No, I edit fan fic and yes, I read it. Why do you care?" There's a stigma about it, even among some geeks, that I don't want to tackle. I get in arguments here for my majors, my politics, and my religion; I don't want to have to fight to justify my hobbies to people who don't really have anything to do with it anyway. The fact that it's possible to make friends among fan fic writers and readers without having to divulge all the personal info makes it safe, in a lot of ways, to indulge in a guilty pleasure, though what exactly makes it a guilty pleasure I can't pin down.
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