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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Bunny: Need female leads? Tired of Luthien and Arwen? Try... Reply with quote

As has been stated many times before, Tolkien is, in fact, full of fabulous females whose collective adventures should easily prevent the need for crosswiring canon or sending modern-day ladies to different worlds only to be looked at oddly for wearing shorts. Here are a few of my favourites who are practically ignored in fanfic.

Eilinel - the White Maiden of Dorthonion, wife of Gorlim the Unhappy, whose desperate search for her led him to commit treason against Beren's father. If not for his betrayal, their love might have been remembered as the greatest of their time instead of Beren and Luthien.

Emeldir - the Man-Hearted, wife of Barahir and mother of Beren. Though she wished to stay and fight beside her husband in the ruins of Dorthonion, she instead led the women and children of her homeland to safety in the West and South.

Morwen Eledhwen ('Elfsheen') - the Lady of Dor-lomin. After escaping with Emeldir, she married Hurin and bore three children (one of whom died at the age of three). He beauty and majesty was feared by the Easterlings.

Gilraen - mother of Aragorn, who took her son to Rivendell to be raised by Elrond after her husband was slain by orcs.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget Haleth. After the loss of her father and her twin brother Haldar, she became the leader of her people, and she led many of them to dwell in the Forest of Brethil. In her time, the Haladin became known as the People of Haleth
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about Mithrellas? Mother to the line of Dol Amroth, a Silvan Maiden that fell in love, or was taken to wife (as Tolkien states it) by Imrazhor the Numenorean? How about our hobbit lasses? Rose Gamgee, Belladonna Took, Esmeralda Took, Estella Bolger for starters?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found Andreth very interesting after I read Morgoth's Ring. I think that was the only Elf-mortal relationship (well, almost) that featured a mortal woman instead of a mortal man. Too bad there weren't other mortal ladies who had the hots for Eldar males. Also too bad Aegnor didn't act on his desire when he had the chance. Although there is fanfic for that. Who knows what they would have done in those moments alone? Perhaps there's a story there that isn't being told.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is also the Queens of Numenor whose stories are just waitibng to be told. Tar-Ancalimë, Tar-Telperien, Tar-Vanimeldë, (Tar-Miriel). How is it to be a ruler of an otherwise male dominated world.? That could be interesting.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I see a challenge in the making... what a great bunny!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've read all of these somewhere...Oh yeah, Tolkien wrote about them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghettoelleth wrote:
I think I've read all of these somewhere...Oh yeah, Tolkien wrote about them.


I thought the request was for other female leads than he usual. Something i've misunderstood?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you touch it, its all crosswiring
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finduilas - 1st Age. Talk about angst... fell in love with Gwindor, lost him to the Bragollach, then he comes back all withered, falls in love with TURIN Evil or Very Mad loses her father, watches her home sacked, gets paraded past Sh**head while in chains, gets stuck to a tree with an orc spear. Girl couldn't catch a break.

Amarie: Betrothed to Finrod, then the putz gives back the ring and follows his crazy uncle to ME.

Nerdanel: wife of Feanor, nuff said.

Indis: 1st and only Elda step mother. Tolkien went so far as to say most of the problems in Valinor (aside from those caused directly by Morgoth) could be traced to her.

Finwe's daughters

Lots of 1st Age elleth to write about, especially if angst is your game


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

winner of this years most eloquently stated explanation of what happened to the woman who is responsible for everyone looking at one another dumbly and asking, 'Who the hell is Orodreth?' Inglor Inglorion wrote:
Finduilas - 1st Age. Talk about angst... fell in love with Gwindor, lost him to the Bragollach, then he comes back all withered, falls in love with TURIN loses her father, watches her home sacked, gets paraded past Sh**head while in chains, gets stuck to a tree with an orc spear. Girl couldn't catch a break.

When I grow up, I want to be able to express myself like Uncle Inglor, LMAO. You crack me up.

What about all the unnamed firstborn of the firstborn who woke up in Cuivienen and just kinda wandered off without a Thomas Guide. They'se my next endeavor.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghettoelleth wrote:
winner of this years most eloquently stated explanation of what happened to the woman who is responsible for everyone looking at one another dumbly and asking, 'Who the hell is Orodreth?' Inglor Inglorion wrote:
Finduilas - 1st Age. Talk about angst... fell in love with Gwindor, lost him to the Bragollach, then he comes back all withered, falls in love with TURIN loses her father, watches her home sacked, gets paraded past Sh**head while in chains, gets stuck to a tree with an orc spear. Girl couldn't catch a break.

When I grow up, I want to be able to express myself like Uncle Inglor, LMAO. You crack me up.

What about all the unnamed firstborn of the firstborn who woke up in Cuivienen and just kinda wandered off without a Thomas Guide. They'se my next endeavor.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or Aredhel, sister of Turgon who saved her son's life and was killed by her husband.

Idril Celebrindal, daughter of Turgon who maried a man and was the mother of Earendil

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dis, the only female dwarf mentioned by name. Daughter of Thrain II, sister of Thorin Oakenshield, mother of Fili and Kili. She must have done something besides being related to all those important dwarves.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viv wrote:
Dis, the only female dwarf mentioned by name. Daughter of Thrain II, sister of Thorin Oakenshield, mother of Fili and Kili. She must have done something besides being related to all those important dwarves.


There's a female dwarf and the best he could do was Dis? Like 6-9 City of Dis?? Like Virgil's Dis in Aeneid? That's so not fair. Shocked

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