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| because it was too dangerous (but why???) |
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telcontarr
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 Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: Another stupid question |
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Why didn't the Fellowship just fly to Mordor on one of the Eagles ?
I know this is a stupid question, but I need to convince my friend-
please give me some arguments...  |
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Robbie
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a) Sauron could conjour up surface to air missiles.
b) It's harder to esacpe radar on a big eagle.
c) Everyone wanted a wing seat, and there were not enough to go round.
d) Quarantine regulations prohibit the Eagles from flying across the county boundaries.
e) The Winged Creatures carried more fire power and could pull higher G. In a one-on-one battle against even Thorondor, the Eagle wouldn't stand a chance. Gwaihir would be totally fucked.
f) Dropping the ring into the hole on the top of Mount Doom from a moving vehicle would require a high level of accuracy. Eagles aren't fitted with SMART technology by default and just imagine if the ring hit the edge and bounced all the way down the hill...
g) And if they had made it, the book would have been damned short. "Hi, I'm Bilbo. I'm old and going to retire but first I'll hop on this Eagle, drop the ring in this here hole and fly to Rivendell and get old. The End." Not what I'd call a best seller there.
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NancyBrooke
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Putting aside the above, much more salient answers:
1. Visibility
2. Wraiths with wings
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NancyBrooke
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Robbie wrote: | | f) Dropping the ring into the hole on the top of Mount Doom from a moving vehicle would require a high level of accuracy. Eagles aren't fitted with SMART technology ... |
Use the Force, Frodo!
Not much harder than bullseyeing wamprats in my T16 back home ...
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DreadLadyFreya
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| Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Robbie wrote: |
g) And if they had made it, the book would have been damned short. "Hi, I'm Bilbo. I'm old and going to retire but first I'll hop on this Eagle, drop the ring in this here hole and fly to Rivendale and get old. The End." Not what I'd call a best seller there. |
True, but at least Boromir wouldn't have died. And, really, isn't that what's most important?
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vladazhael
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| DreadLadyFreya wrote: |
True, but at least Boromir wouldn't have died. And, really, isn't that what's most important? |
yes. yes it is.
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Alassante
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Robbie you should be banned from making these comments until you develop a emoticon showing someone spewing stuff on their PC. I guess this will have to do  although its not quite the same thing.
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Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.
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| DreadLadyFreya wrote: | | Robbie wrote: |
g) And if they had made it, the book would have been damned short ... |
True, but at least Boromir wouldn't have died. And, really, isn't that what's most important? |
Now, why didn't I think of that?  
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Worse than spewing drink on your Monitor is laughing out loud while working ...  (and not being able to tell THEM why)
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Vilwarin
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A serious answer I once heard on a TV documentation:
It just was not their battle.
Strange thing to say considering that they they were present at the last battle. But this is was Tolkien said.
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inglor
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Delurking:
I have pondered this one... even got into a shouting match about it.
The Eagle idea is great until it is time for Frodo to give up the Ring.
From a purely tactical and military point of view, I think it could work, there are several examples from recent military history that reinforce this. BUT, Frodo wouldn't have just popped it into Mount Doom, we have Gollum to thank for that.
And there is a fic on FF.net about just this scenario. The author is Cloaked Eagle, it is unfinished and hasn't been updated in a WHILE, so don't read it if you hate permanant WIP's. The author's premis is that things really go to shit after the Ring is destroyed (Balrog destroys Lorien, Saruman goes on a rampage, Aragorn doesn't take the throne, etc...) The chaps are about 1500 words long so the author covers ALOT of ground very fast. But it is interesting to see where the author takes things
Back to lurkdom,
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NeumeIndil
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Would the Fellowship be necessary if an eagle or two accompanied Frodo (and Sam) into Mordor and dropped them off at the volcano? Not really. And without the Fellowship, there really is no story.
Besides, what kind of friends would they be if all they ever wanted from the eagles was air support?
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DreadLadyFreya
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 I wuv you, GE. Don't never change!!
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