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Cressida



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inglor wrote:
Finduilas - 1st Age. Talk about angst... fell in love with Gwindor, lost him to the Bragollach, then he comes back all withered, falls in love with TURIN Evil or Very Mad loses her father, watches her home sacked, gets paraded past Sh**head while in chains, gets stuck to a tree with an orc spear. Girl couldn't catch a break.

Finduilas of Nargothrond is tops on the short list of Tolkien characters that I want to slap silly. (As opposed to Turin himself, whom I want to beat about the head and neck with a saxophone.) If she was shallow enough to care so much about looks that she'd switch her preference to Turin, then she deserved what she got. Wench.

And I just KNOW Tolkien wants me to find her story beautiful and sympathetic and tragic, and I refuse to cooperate.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And there is Eowyn, I guess you all know who she is...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Pippin has three older sisters. There's lots you can do with them....
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cressida wrote:
And Pippin has three older sisters. There's lots you can do with them....

Beg your pardon? Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Cressida wrote:
And Pippin has three older sisters. There's lots you can do with them....

Beg your pardon? Wink


Yeah, you know Duchess, mash em, boil em, stick em in a stew...

Ol - der - sis - terrrrrs!!!.

You do know what those are, don't you? *SNORT AND DUCK!!!*

LOL, this is like...secret code. How many Waldo's can YOU find?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theoden King had an older sister and three younger sisters. We know what happened to (scurries off to dig the name out of her notes) Theodwyn, who was the youngest, but I haven't found anything about the other 3 sisters (numbers 1, 3 and 4 in the birth order). Lots of possiblilities there.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SO, what's the difference between a named character with little or no history/development/action in the text, and an OFC?


your answer, if any, need not be in the form of serious discussion

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
SO, what's the difference between a named character with little or no history/development/action in the text, and an OFC?


your answer, if any, need not be in the form of serious discussion


Good question - I mean I had that trouble writing Celebrian for 'Alliance', since the only thing I had to go on was a reference in the Appendices. But I think there's enough information available to let you shape a character properly - for instance with her, you know she's Galadriel and Celeborn's daughter, therefore you could tackle it (as I did) from the POV of 'how would you grow up with parents like those?' Usually there's a few snippets of information that give you a little hold on the character and you can flesh out from there - like, did they start off living in Gondor but were actually Rohirric, and if so how did they get on with the native Gondorians at court, or something like that. You can kind of use what you know about the canon characters they're related to to base them on.

WIth OFCs, you have the starting point of race and possible historical background - a woman living during the great plague is likely to have different attitudes to survival and life etc than someone living a comfy life in the White City in Elessar's reign. You kind of have the environment to help you shape her, and you can work from there to figure out what sort of upbringing, personality etc she could have.

I don't know if that makes any sense at all.

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