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LegolasIris
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 5
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:22 am Post subject: Boromir or Faramir |
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Okay, even though my first survey came out to be distracted by one, (I do not mention names) I made another. So who is more noble, Boromir or Faramir?  _________________ "The stars are veiled. There is some evil that stirs in the east. ... He is here!" ~Legolas, ROTK |
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BittenBuggy

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 2108 Location: Busy Being the Queen Of Everything.. And Trying to Catch the Yoda-Copter
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Noble? I think they are eqaully noble. Boromir is perhaps weaker in spirit. Faramir never fell to the corruption of the ring, even when it was within his grasp, as Boromir had. But Boromir redeemed himself, and died very gallantly.
Faramir perhaps was a bit more timid. But it was to be expected since he lived in the shadow of his older brother. *Sigh* You make it such a hard choice! But alas, on this one, I cannot vote. _________________ -The Queen of Everything - so dubed by Aerin
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Robbie Site Admin

Joined: 22 Jun 2003 Posts: 1100 Location: Sydney, Australia.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Can I have some fun with this one, too? It's blatently obvious that Big Nose is going to win it unless we throw in another player
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Zimraphel

Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Burbank, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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I prefer to reserve judgment until the ROTK EE comes out, because I don't think Faramir had quite enough scenes in that film. I reserved my judgment on whether I liked him or not in TTT until the EE came out and I'm glad I did, because that version is one completely different than the one I saw in the theatrical release, which did not show the motivations or range of growth the EE did; instead, Faramir came off looking like the biggest jerk west of the Ephel Duath.
I will say that, upon a recent third viewing of ROTK, I broke down and bawled during the scene where Faramir confirms that, yes, Denethor would rather he had died and Boromir had lived; the hurt in his eyes was just so palpable. And that was the only time I cried during that film, BTW. But I also held back a few tears when Boromir died. |
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sindohte

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1621 Location: Rubbing up against an Elf
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:31 am Post subject: |
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I think the answer to the question of whether Boromir or Faramir is more noble rests in who is asking and then asking the question. If Denethor was asked, he would automatically say Boromir. Yet is Boromir truly more noble than Faramir, or is it just that he was a father's favorite son who could supposedly do no wrong? And then there is Faramir who remained steadfast to a father who doubted and denigrated his abilities to nearly the very end.
So I would say that nobility is in the eyes of the beholder. Both of the sons of Denethor get a thumbs up in my book. However, if it was purely a beauty contest, Boromir would win hands down.  _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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LuthienTinuviel
Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 354 Location: Dancing in the clouds.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:15 am Post subject: |
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I would wait until ROTK. But if you mean the book, then I cannot vote. Who am I to say which is more noble than the other? Faramir was stronger in spirit, though softer hue when it comes to glorious battle wins etc etc... Boromir, a stronger winner is weaker in spirit. What makes Boromir who he is makes him easily deceived by the ring, while what was lacking or stronger in Faramir made him immune to the ring.
I cannot chose. _________________ }}}}}Life's a journey you unfold with each step.{{{{{ |
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BittenBuggy

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 2108 Location: Busy Being the Queen Of Everything.. And Trying to Catch the Yoda-Copter
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| sindohte wrote: |
So I would say that nobility is in the eyes of the beholder. Both of the sons of Denethor get a thumbs up in my book. However, if it was purely a beauty contest, Boromir would win hands down.  |
Oh heavens, I would rather ride the Lord of Emyn Arnen anyday
I'm with Robbie, Boromir has a big nose  _________________ -The Queen of Everything - so dubed by Aerin
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Hathor

Joined: 09 Jun 2003 Posts: 346 Location: Lancashire, England
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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As a character, I know that my vote would go towards Faramir, just because of the Shieldmaiden connection, and because he always appealed to me more as a character.
Most noble? Well, that's a strange question. I think they're pretty equal, in their own ways... Boromir died in a terrifically noble fashion, but then Faramir, especailly in the book, is amazingly... well... noble!
Hmmm.  _________________ ~Hathor~
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miriel361
Joined: 10 Jun 2003 Posts: 417
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm strongly prejudiced about this. For me it's old Big Nose himself all the way.
Which means that if Sean Bean had played Faramir, then I would have chosen Faramir.....
Sorry, you can't ask me to be impartial about this question. And even if you added Robbie up there, it'd still be Big Nose. (Did you hear that Robbie?)
However assuming that SB was playing neither part, then I would still choose Boromir because he is tempted and still manages to resist at the end. He is good of heart and strong of honour even though he doesn't have his brother's sensitivity. And yes I know that Faramire resists the lure of the ring, but the ring never really had a hold on him. |
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BittenBuggy

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 2108 Location: Busy Being the Queen Of Everything.. And Trying to Catch the Yoda-Copter
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm changing my mind and voting for Faramir, so that the scales will be a bit more even. Poor little Faramir only has two votes  _________________ -The Queen of Everything - so dubed by Aerin
-"My ultimate fantasy is to entice a man to my bedroom, put a gun to his head and say, 'Make babies or die'."
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boz4PM
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 0 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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I speak as one who has yet to see ROTK *dodges barrage of rotten tomatoes and stale lembas* BUT I for one was irritated beyond belief with what PJ did with Boz and Fazza. Even WITH the EE DVD scenes for TT - made it even worse, IMHO. *sigh*
Which was more noble in the films? Boromir - because he fought against trying to take the Ring, whereas Faramir decides to take it then and there *waves fist at PJ for doing that - Faramir take the Ring? NOOOO!*
As for who was ACTUALLY the more noble... gah! What a question! umm.. errr... Can I sit on the fence as say they were as noble and brave and wonderful as each other?
No?
Oh well in that case it will have to be Boz. Hands down. Every time. For very obvious reasons (he IS sex on wheels - what more reason do you need?).
So is SB whether as Boz or anything else (but that's beside the point).
Err... am I rambling? Suspect I may be. Sorry. Will shut up now. *grin* |
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sindohte

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1621 Location: Rubbing up against an Elf
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| BittenBuggy wrote: |
Oh heavens, I would rather ride the Lord of Emyn Arnen anyday
I'm with Robbie, Boromir has a big nose  |
While Boromir may have a big nose, it is a very noble nose. Faramir is nothing to sneeze at, but I still like older bro better. _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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BittenBuggy

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 2108 Location: Busy Being the Queen Of Everything.. And Trying to Catch the Yoda-Copter
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| sindohte wrote: | | BittenBuggy wrote: |
Oh heavens, I would rather ride the Lord of Emyn Arnen anyday
I'm with Robbie, Boromir has a big nose  |
While Boromir may have a big nose, it is a very noble nose. Faramir is nothing to sneeze at, but I still like older bro better. |
Hehe... Noble nose indeed.... Sorry, but truly, I love Boromir just as much as the next gal. I just think David Wenham is gorgeous Altough I must admit, he's more handsome WITHOUT the Faramir costume...Hmmm...*Ponders* _________________ -The Queen of Everything - so dubed by Aerin
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sindohte

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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| BittenBuggy wrote: | I just think David Wenham is gorgeous Altough I must admit, he's more handsome WITHOUT the Faramir costume...Hmmm...*Ponders* |
Very true. I think that I happened to see a picture of David from the German ROTK premiere and he was a stone cold hottie.
But I do think it is very cool how they managed to cast two actors who look remarkably similar in terms of their facial features. You can definitely believe that they are brothers. _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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BittenBuggy

Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 2108 Location: Busy Being the Queen Of Everything.. And Trying to Catch the Yoda-Copter
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| sindohte wrote: | | BittenBuggy wrote: | I just think David Wenham is gorgeous Altough I must admit, he's more handsome WITHOUT the Faramir costume...Hmmm...*Ponders* |
Very true. I think that I happened to see a picture of David from the German ROTK premiere and he was a stone cold hottie.
But I do think it is very cool how they managed to cast two actors who look remarkably similar in terms of their facial features. You can definitely believe that they are brothers. |
Oh yeah, absolutly. _________________ -The Queen of Everything - so dubed by Aerin
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