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 Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: The Golden Compass Trailer |
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Rough Trailer for The Golden Compass
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 Must... see... pretty... movie...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Very nice !
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It looks awfully 'Narnia' to me, which isn't really how I envisioned that universe when I read the books. I don't know, maybe it'll surprise me and not just be another kid's film that'll disappear, but will actually do the books some justice.
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What is it about CGI? Sometimes, as in Sin City, LoTR, 300, it can be so well done, and others, like Narnia, it is so cheesy and wooden and hard to watch. I would say maybe it is the fact that Narnia had all that creature CGI, but then, that doesn't explain much, look how well they did that in the trilogy, especially gollum, but even the Mumakil. I don't get it.
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | | What is it about CGI? Sometimes, as in Sin City, LoTR, 300, it can be so well done, and others, like Narnia, it is so cheesy and wooden and hard to watch. I would say maybe it is the fact that Narnia had all that creature CGI, but then, that doesn't explain much, look how well they did that in the trilogy, especially gollum, but even the Mumakil. I don't get it. |
We had a series on here recently called Primeval and to me, if they hadn't had such cheesy CGI, it'd've been really good. This sounds sarcastic but it's not meant to be, but I've seen some cartoons where the CGI is better, more suspension of disbelief. I think with Weta, what made it work was that it didn't stand out so much in contrast to the live action, so that it all kinda fitted and so you could just look past the effects and take it all in as an environment and action, as opposed to Primeval, where it looked like a live action film with some CGI stuck in, so your eye was drawn to the effect and so it lost its 'realness' because it was so obvious.
I have no idea if anything I just said made sense.
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Made perfect sense to me, so either we're on the same sugar high, or yeah, makes sense. That was totally it about Narnia though, all the creatures were so stiff and unrealistic next to the live action.
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| ghettoelleth wrote: | | Made perfect sense to me, so either we're on the same sugar high, or yeah, makes sense. That was totally it about Narnia though, all the creatures were so stiff and unrealistic next to the live action. |
Yeah, same with Primeval - someone described it as 'Disney CGI', which would have worked in a cartoon film, but not in something that was meant to be proper SF. Narnia, oddly enough, I enjoyed when I watched it again recently with my mother (who hadn't read the books - apparently the local Minister had come into the school she taught in demanding to know why his daughter was in remedial reading classes when she had read 'The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe' at home, and since then she'd deliberately avoided anything CS Lewis related because it reminded her of him). I don't know if it was just because I was seeing it second time around or what it was, but it was much better than when I saw it myself.
LOTR just strikes me as a much higher quality effort all round, just seems to gel a lot better and have a lot more power behind it than even things like the Harry Potter movies (which I have nothing against, see avvie) or Narnia or Eragon or what have you. The whole atmosphere of the films and filming style / modelwork / CGI just seemed a lot more epic. What worries me about the Dark Materials film is that it looks like one of the *blip* forgotten types, whereas I really loved the books and would've loved to have seen something with the same staying power as LOTR. Oh well.
PS, I apologise for being long winded, but I am immensely bored tonight and this is an interesting topic.
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Oh yeah, Eragon, that's another one. I read the books, they were pretty good, but i saw the ads and it doesn't look any better than some of the other stuff I've seen lately. I'm going to see it this weekend, hope the story makes up for it.
I guess now we know why producers are willing to go so far and pay so much for WETA, they certainly are ahead of the rest of the pack in their CGI. It was never an issue when I saw the movies the first couple of times. It wasn't until we were familiar with them that we played spot the oopses with the films.
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