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vladazhael



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
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Eh, I've been renfaire lazy myself too, ever since that hay allergy reared its ugly head.

Oh, and I've seen this VV trouble before. But after my difficulties, then Talonriva having the same issues, I now remember what to do. Razz You'll have to make sure you're signed out of OSA, then delete your browsing history, temporary internet files, etc., both from your browser options/properties *and* from the control panel separate from the browser. I know it seems redundant, but I swear I've seen it work. Once that's all cleared out, if you sign back in you should be able to get to the VV.


Patience evil twin. She posted that she didn't have access before I gave her access. lol She has access and instructions now so she should be all set.

See! I told you we're a friendly bunch X.


Damn, I figured it was too good to be true that I actually knew what was going on for once. Razz Tricksy internets...

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Alassante
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vladazhael wrote:

Damn, I figured it was too good to be true that I actually knew what was going on for once. Razz Tricksy internets...


Just be glad you didn't break it this time Wink Gore may have invented it but Vlad can break it Shocked

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like, ohmigod!! It totally works!!

Went away and surfed a bit and then came back, and lo and behold! There was the lovely shiny link.

You guys rock!

(Sorry...channeled my inner Valley Girl for a bit there.)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked

Did Vlad FIX something by accident this time?

Shocked Shocked Shocked

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Al... I'm scared.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
Shocked Shocked Shocked

Did Vlad FIX something by accident this time?

Shocked Shocked Shocked


Sometimes I find it's better not to ask.

So is there a list somewhere so I can see which canon characters have been taken, or should I just jump in and start reading?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So is there a list somewhere so I can see which canon characters have been taken, or should I just jump in and start reading?


I'll email you Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vladazhael wrote:
Oh, and I've seen this VV trouble before. But after my difficulties, then Talonriva having the same issues, I now remember what to do. Razz You'll have to make sure you're signed out of OSA, then delete your browsing history, temporary internet files, etc., both from your browser options/properties *and* from the control panel separate from the browser. I know it seems redundant, but I swear I've seen it work. Once that's all cleared out, if you sign back in you should be able to get to the VV.

No you don't. Unless you've been fiddling with computer settings. All that was a fluke.

The wesbite sends a "cache expired" instruction with every single HTML page, as well as one saying the page has been modified each time you look, as well as... unless you have a VERY, VERY old browser, then it'll go looking for the page again. Either that, or the browser isn't working.

We've ran numerous tests with different configurations on different browsers - it doesn't fail.

The problem is most likely with badly configured browsers, or ISPs that cache the page (these are called silent cache - nearly all ISPs run with them). Unfortunately, if that isn't working correctly, then you're really screwed. If there is a new story, you won't hear about it. If there is a new post on the forum, you won't hear about it....

Possible fixes
On Your computer:

1) Check that you have your computer set to check for new versions of stored pages "automatically".

If the ISP is playing up:

2) Logging off and logging on. This may give you a new session ID and the ISP cache should say this is a new session and ask for the page again. If it doesn't this is a HUGE security risk as you may be browsing your bank account details, log off, then someone on another computer comes along that you've never heard of and can access your details. Hmmmm.

3) Clearing your cookies - or just the ones pertaining to "www.openscrolls.net". This should have hte same effect

4) Wait. The ISP caches are programmed to go back periodically just for a check anyway - note that the instruction we send from the server is go back and check everytime, but if it doesn't then not much we can do. Timeframes can therefore vary.

5) Get a new ISP.

OR

6) (The clever trick, and actually the one to try first) Go to http://www.openscrolls.net/fanfic/index.php?j=1. Why? The ?j=1 is actually ignored by the site, but to the cache it looks like a brand new page so it goes and asks for it. If you've viewed j=1 then try j=2 but if neither work, hmmmm.

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But, in short, you shouldn't need to do anything unless someone's been fiddling.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It did appear to have fixed itself, so I'm just chalking it up to some weird caching on the part of my ISP. Thanks for the in-depth analysis, though, Robbie! Smile

(And it's still working fine now, the next morning, so I guess I don't have to worry about it anymore.)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChristineX wrote:
I'd like to do the Witch-king. Ahem. Razz

Before or after he became a wraith? Or, maybe I don't want to know ... *shuddder*

Hellos, X, I'm Nancy, fresh (no, filthy and tick-ridden) back from deepest darkest woodsiest NJ (which explains why I haven't slid in here before).

Seems today I'm the straight one in the bunch, or maybe just conservative, fanfictionally speaking: I only want to do the live, human boys and preferably only one of those, write pretty much only in one fandom (although "Firefly" is beckoning) and like my fic with intelligible grammatic structure, if you please.

Welcome to OSA. It is a nice place, and we pride ourselves on being welcoming, nurturing and supportive so I'll look forward to reading your fic and letting you know if I spotted any typos - I JUST CAN'T HELP MYSELF!!! Head bang Rolling Eyes

God, I need a shower and some gin ... Okay, time to get my daughter out of the tub ...

Seizures,

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbie wrote:
vladazhael wrote:
Oh, and I've seen this VV trouble before. But after my difficulties, then Talonriva having the same issues, I now remember what to do. Razz You'll have to make sure you're signed out of OSA, then delete your browsing history, temporary internet files, etc., both from your browser options/properties *and* from the control panel separate from the browser. I know it seems redundant, but I swear I've seen it work. Once that's all cleared out, if you sign back in you should be able to get to the VV.

No you don't. Unless you've been fiddling with computer settings. All that was a fluke.


Oh. Well, that wouldn't be the first time I've fluked my way into something working. Rolling Eyes Could have been a few settings fiddled here and there too, especially with the voodoo occasionally performed by the programmer who lurks in my apartment. Either way, good to know.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vladazhael wrote:
Robbie wrote:
Unless you've been fiddling with computer settings. All that was a fluke.
Could have been a few settings fiddled here and there too, especially with the voodoo occasionally performed by the programmer who lurks in my apartment.

Girl, you have an apartment-lurking-programmer? Shocked I'd call an exterminator about that ... never know what kind of trouble those things can get into, rewiring, redefining, resetting ... none of it good!

Actually, the biggest fight I ever got into with Tommy the Hub was over stereo wiring Confused ... wait, what does that say about me? Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:

Before or after he became a wraith? Or, maybe I don't want to know ... *shuddder*


Um...both? Wink He's just always fascinated me.

NancyBrooke wrote:
Seems today I'm the straight one in the bunch, or maybe just conservative, fanfictionally speaking: I only want to do the live, human boys and preferably only one of those, write pretty much only in one fandom (although "Firefly" is beckoning) and like my fic with intelligible grammatic structure, if you please.

Welcome to OSA. It is a nice place, and we pride ourselves on being welcoming, nurturing and supportive so I'll look forward to reading your fic and letting you know if I spotted any typos - I JUST CAN'T HELP MYSELF!!! Head bang Rolling Eyes


Thanks for the hello -- I'll admit I've written some semi-out-there stuff, but since it's all het, and only involves one person of each sex at a time, I'd still say it was fairly vanilla compared to some of the stuff I've heard about since I started writing fanfic. (I used to think my mind was in the gutter, but not anymore!) Shocked

I hope you won't spot any typos, but it's always hardest to proof your own stuff, isn't it?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChristineX wrote:

Thanks for the hello -- I'll admit I've written some semi-out-there stuff, but since it's all het, and only involves one person of each sex at a time, I'd still say it was fairly vanilla compared to some of the stuff I've heard about since I started writing fanfic. (I used to think my mind was in the gutter, but not anymore!) Shocked


Well when you read the stories at the VV, I think of the five chapters posted of Trinity the most recent chapter features my OFC and CC.. for the rest you can't call it exactly vanilla (even not in that chapter...). For some reasons my muses don't like that. I try to convince them otherwise though. Pesky bunnies!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhapsody wrote:
Well when you read the stories at the VV, I think of the five chapters posted of Trinity the most recent chapter features my OFC and CC.. for the rest you can't call it exactly vanilla (even not in that chapter...). For some reasons my muses don't like that. I try to convince them otherwise though. Pesky bunnies!


However....if you ever think your fiction is bordering on the unthinkable - guess again lol There are some fictions out there that just go into completely mouth dropping territory. Shocked Shocked Shocked Like Christine - I thought I was pretty adventurous in my writing until I read some other things posted.

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