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Alassante
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| LuthienTinuviel wrote: | I have a confession.
One of my first fanfics on LOTR was a Mary Sue which I abandoned after page 83 and it never saw the light of day. (ROFL, it was my first attempt at writing). I'm guilty of writing rubbish, and shamelessly trying to do better. Btw, I really did pour my heart in this one, newbie and all, but in the can it must remain. |
I'm sure if you polled every writer on here - they have AT LEAST one of those Mary Sue stories that never will be posted (or was removed).  I have one and I deleted a story here that was too bad. Sadly it was part one of three stories lol The last two parts can exist on their own but I get emails about the first part. 
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Viv
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Alassante wrote: | | I'm sure if you polled every writer on here - they have AT LEAST one of those Mary Sue stories that never will be posted (or was removed). |
*raises hand*
And for the heck of it, I'll start a poll. |
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Rous
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have never seen why he needs to be portrayed as sexy. I actually like Hadir and not so much Craig. And, my fic is not about sex, but more about love, although I use no explicit scenes.
As for why people like him, I agree that it is the whole blank slate thingy. Almost nothing is know so there is not much that can ranted about by the canatics.
JMHO
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lissaselves
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Rous wrote: | | I have never seen why he needs to be portrayed as sexy. |
I agree. The books describes him as kind and talkative and friendly towards the hobbits - a nice guy.
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And, my fic is not about sex, but more about love, although I use no explicit scenes. |
Did you post it? Or are you still working on it? (I've been writing for a year now ...  )
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As for why people like him, I agree that it is the whole blank slate thingy. Almost nothing is know so there is not much that can ranted about by the canatics.
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lol - good point!
If you like Wood-elves in general - and Haldir in particular - I'd love to talk about them some more. |
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Viv
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A prime up-side for Haldir just occurred to me: he's a Lindi, an Avari. Therefore, he's probably never heard of that doofusy thing called LaCE.
Which means he's boinkable! |
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lissaselves
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Viv wrote: | A prime up-side for Haldir just occurred to me: he's a Lindi, an Avari. Therefore, he's probably never heard of that doofusy thing called LaCE.
Which means he's boinkable! |
lol - wonderful, eh Viv!
But I'm afraid those of Teleri descent considered themselves Eldar. We could hope he was Avari, of course  |
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Ithryn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Lissaselves, I'll be looking for your "book" Haldir story. I've read quite a few non-LACE stories, and just can't accept that the eleves were so cavalier about sex and stuff, being a higher order of being supposedly than we second-born. Granted that they do have their Feanorian moments.
I've got a book/movie cross AU Haldir that maybe I'll post some day, with hopefully a view from another perspective of Haldir -- an attempt to reconcile the movie with the book version: i.e., Haldir didn't die at Helm's Deep. He wasn't ALL dead, only mostly dead. |
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lissaselves
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Ithryn! It's nice to meet another Haldir-friend.
| Ithryn wrote: | | Lissaselves, I'll be looking for your "book" Haldir story. I've read quite a few non-LACE stories, and just can't accept that the eleves were so cavalier about sex and stuff, being a higher order of being supposedly than we second-born. Granted that they do have their Feanorian moments. |
I happened to start a discussion on Elven sexuality once (on another forum), because there were some issues in Laws & Customs that confused me. The subject turned out to be a rather hot potato so I never got around to writing the article I had originally planned.
However, one of the suggested ideas was that perhaps, if Elves have only one true match (which is not 100% correct, but let's not go into that right now), then perhaps they do not actually feel sexual desire before they meet this person. I thought it was a plausible explanation, but was definitely in the minority (think the others felt sorry for the poor elves). However, I still think the idea is sound, and it provides me with an excellent reason to skip the subject in my stories.
btw, if you'd like to take a look at my idea of book-verse Haldir, my WIP can be found here: http://lisser8.livejournal.com/6265.html#cutid1 but I warn you - sillines abound over there atm! (all my own fault for chosing to write about the topic I did)
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I've got a book/movie cross AU Haldir that maybe I'll post some day, with hopefully a view from another perspective of Haldir -- an attempt to reconcile the movie with the book version: i.e., Haldir didn't die at Helm's Deep. He wasn't ALL dead, only mostly dead. |
Good to hear that Haldir survived! 
As you may have noticed, I'm not that great a fan of movie-Haldir; while I do think Craig was really cute, the character PJ had created seemed very far from what Tolkien intended. Then on the other hand, I've read many really good fics based on the movies.
I look forward to reading yours!
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Ithryn
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: Book vs Movie Haldir, part II |
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Hi, Lissa,
Thanks for reading my post.  Of course I hopped right over to Live Journal and checked out your perspective on Haldir, and am intrigued! Especially by the chapters that are currently not available. But most especially by the foundling angle! You've certainly staked out virgin (if I may use that term) territory as far as I've been able to discern, and I'm waiting with baited breath to see where it leads! You're doing a great job, I'm really enjoying the story, and keeping an eye out for more.
If it's still accessable, I'd like to read that forum stuff re: the LACE discussion, too. Where is it located?
Take care, and enjoy the rest of the weekend! |
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lissaselves
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Sorry for my late reply - been away for a couple of days.
| Ithryn wrote: |
Of course I hopped right over to Live Journal and checked out your perspective on Haldir, and am intrigued! |
Thank you for taking the time to read! Glad you liked it. Feel free to comment on anything - none of the Haldir-stories are finished yet and I'm sure there are still errors and inconsistencies.
| Quote: | | If it's still accessable, I'd like to read that forum stuff re: the LACE discussion, too. Where is it located? |
Well, it's not posted on a public forum so unfortunately I cannot point you to the discussion. (But I can send you a copy of my original post, if you like.) There were a couple of links that might interest you, although you may know them already. Here's one: http://www.ansereg.com/warm_beds_are_good.htm Great title, btw.
It is a subject that many people feel rather strongly about, and since I'm not the most diplomatic or sensitive person (!) I decided not to push my luck and simply let the subject lie. |
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