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NancyBrooke
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Future Challenge idea for discussion Reply with quote

I know several of us are just launching into the "Never Have I Ever" challenge but I've been thinking for some time about another challenge idea and am interested in input.

Rather than have particpants all write about different characters and events how about if participants all wrote about the same thing?

We could take suggestions for a single canon event, then randomly select and announce the assignment on a set date once folks had registered. Perspective and form etc. would be left up to the author. Or we could make it more specific: 'write about the time when ... from ...'s perspective.'

I think that the differences in approach could be really interesting and educational. I can imagine a lot of "gee, I never saw it that way before ... Cool!"

There are questions, of course: If we chose an event from LOTR/Bookverse, would that leave the Silm-geeks and movie fans out in the cold? just to name one.

and Would too tight an assignment create unwanted comparison? for another.

If enough folks are interested, I would be happy to participate in the organization.

Any other thoughts?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Re: Future Challenge idea for discussion Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
I know several of us are just launching into the "Never Have I Ever" challenge but I've been thinking for some time about another challenge idea and am interested in input.

Rather than have particpants all write about different characters and events how about if participants all wrote about the same thing?

We could take suggestions for a single canon event, then randomly select and announce the assignment on a set date once folks had registered. Perspective and form etc. would be left up to the author. Or we could make it more specific: 'write about the time when ... from ...'s perspective.'

I think that the differences in approach could be really interesting and educational. I can imagine a lot of "gee, I never saw it that way before ... Cool!"


I like this idea, and I agree that different approaches on the same subject and character would be interesting to read. It would also help to emphasize the diversity of writing styles.

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There are questions, of course: If we chose an event from LOTR/Bookverse, would that leave the Silm-geeks and movie fans out in the cold? just to name one.


Myself, I've always had to research my assigned character anyway. That part always helps to give me an idea of where to go with the story, so for me anyway, not knowing the character or time frame would just mean research. Maybe if we gave a little longer to prepare the piece it would take care of this issue?


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and Would too tight an assignment create unwanted comparison? for another.


I guess I don't really understand what you mean by unwanted comparison. (My brain hasn't fully booted up yet.) There would need to be enough room to allow for a diversity of styles. I don't think choosing a character and setting would be too tight. Choosing whose POV to write it from might be a bit too limiting. (I'm thinking of your wonderful Haldir story which wasn't written from his POV.) Maybe just choosing whether it's first person or third person and letting the author choose the actual person would be better?

If enough folks are interested, I would be happy to participate in the organization.

Any other thoughts?[/quote]

I'd sign up. I've really learned so much from these challenges. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Very Happy [/quote]

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds fun, NB! Two cents: I think making it LoTR only would open it up to more people. Most fandom folks have read the LoTR books, at least enough to signpost mentions of Tom Bombadil, for instance. The wave of movie-only readers and writers has dwindled, I think (though if any are out there, speak up!).

When you get details sorted, just let me know and I'll post the challenge. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm game. Smile I'll take any kick-start on writing at this point. Work stress is proving hard to combat.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Future Challenge idea for discussion Reply with quote

Viv wrote:
I think making it LoTR only would open it up to more people.

That was my first thought, too, Viv.

NeumeIndil wrote:
I'm game. Smile I'll take any kick-start on writing at this point. Work stress is proving hard to combat.

Oooh! Sorry to hear that Neu, but glad you're interested.

Viv-the-extremely-helpful wrote:
When you get details sorted, just let me know and I'll post the challenge. Smile

Thanks! I think it should not formally begin until after the "Never Have I Ever" challenge has concluded.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Re: Future Challenge idea for discussion Reply with quote

eiranae wrote:
I like this idea, and I agree that different approaches on the same subject and character would be interesting to read. It would also help to emphasize the diversity of writing styles.

... not knowing the character or time frame would just mean research. Maybe if we gave a little longer to prepare the piece it would take care of this issue?

More time would certainly help. I'm inclined to keep to the 1 month time frame, myself. Anybody else?

NB wrote:
Would too tight an assignment create unwanted comparison?
Eira wrote:
I guess I don't really understand what you mean by unwanted comparison.

I meant that if everyone were doing nearly the exact same thing, e.g. a drabble from Frodo's point of view upon first waking up in Rivendell, the participating pieces would be too easy to measure side-by-side, as if one had the right answer or something. I don't want this to be like an essay test.

eira wrote:
There would need to be enough room to allow for a diversity of styles. I don't think choosing a character and setting would be too tight. Choosing whose POV to write it from might be a bit too limiting. (I'm thinking of your wonderful Haldir story which wasn't written from his POV.)

I agree entirely. And thanks for the promo!

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If enough folks are interested, I would be happy to participate in the organization ... I'd sign up. I've really learned so much from these challenges. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Very Happy

Great!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I meant that if everyone were doing nearly the exact same thing, e.g. a drabble from Frodo's point of view upon first waking up in Rivendell, the participating pieces would be too easy to measure side-by-side, as if one had the right answer or something. I don't want this to be like an essay test.


Ok, I see what you mean now. JMHO, but I think everyone here is mature enough not to think of themselves as the sum of all wisdom. Myself, I like to see what others might do with a similar situation. I can understand what you mean, though.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good idea to me, all around. Now I just have to get myself writing the previous good idea...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a neat idea -- I'd be up for it Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say the first assignment is "300+ words about The Long Expected Party". You could take it from Bilbo's POV, from Frodo's, from Gandalf's, from Sam's, from any number of invited guests, from any number of gate crasher's PsOV, from the Dwarves POV, Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, what the Party Tree saw/thought that night... or any combination thereof. Most of the events of canon, etc. could be handled in just that way. I think assigning a specific character could be done too, but if that's the case, we'd want to all choose different events from that character's life (say, Frodo's memories of his parents' deaths/funeral, growing up in Brandy Hall, moving in with Bilbo, when he found out he was heir to That Ring...). Assigning both, I think, would make it too limited.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vladazhael wrote:
Sounds like a good idea to me, all around. Now I just have to get myself writing the previous good idea...

Great! Yeah, me, too although it's starting to come today.

SilverMoonLady wrote:
Sounds like a neat idea -- I'd be up for it Wink

Excellent!

NeumeIndil wrote:
Let's say the first assignment is "300+ words about The Long Expected Party". You could take it from Bilbo's POV, from Frodo's, from Gandalf's, from Sam's, from any number of invited guests, from any number of gate crasher's PsOV, from the Dwarves POV, Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, what the Party Tree saw/thought that night... or any combination thereof. Most of the events of canon, etc. could be handled in just that way. I think assigning a specific character could be done too, but if that's the case, we'd want to all choose different events from that character's life (say, Frodo's memories of his parents' deaths/funeral, growing up in Brandy Hall, moving in with Bilbo, when he found out he was heir to That Ring...). Assigning both, I think, would make it too limited.

Well said; I agree.

And, by the way, if anyone has an idea for the subject of this challenge, please pm it to me or e-mail it to nb@nancybrooke.com. That way no one will else know what it might be before hand and you'll all just have to trust me not to sketch my own response in advance. If I think a suggested subject needs to be more or less specific, I'll get back to you for changes. Than, when the time comes, I'll randomly choose which one we'll do (hat? Assign numbers? something like that ...).

Cheers!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh! and, not to put the cart before the horse, it sounds like we have enough interest to go forward, so how do you all feel about starting October 1? Is that too soon after the "never have I ever' challenge? 10/15 is a Wednesday; registration for this challege could start 10/1 and I could post the theme 10/15 with a deadline of 11/15. What do you think.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Oh! and, not to put the cart before the horse, it sounds like we have enough interest to go forward, so how do you all feel about starting October 1? Is that too soon after the "never have I ever' challenge? 10/15 is a Wednesday; registration for this challege could start 10/1 and I could post the theme 10/15 with a deadline of 11/15. What do you think.


I think it sounds fun - I'm up for it Very Happy (and I don't think it's too soon after NHIE Cool yeah...because that abbreviation just made me sound so cool.....)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good. And as for organization, you can't go wrong w/ my personal favorite: assigning numbers and then rolling dice. That's about as random as it gets, and all you have to do is count. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds great. It won't be too soon for me. I can always use a bump to the ol' muse.
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