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NeumeIndil
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 Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:50 am Post subject: SPOILERS: been stewing on this idea. |
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Our general consensus was that John Snow's parents are really Lyanna Stark and Rheagar Targaryan.
But Rob Baratheon was supposed to marry Lyanna, yes? So... did they put the cart before the horse so to speak, leaving John Snow another royal bastard? And, depending on ages, that would make him the oldest natural child of the former king, and thus his heir.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: SPOILERS: been stewing on this idea. |
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| NeumeIndil wrote: | Our general consensus was that John Snow's parents are really Lyanna Stark and Rheagar Targaryan.
But Rob Baratheon was supposed to marry Lyanna, yes? So... did they put the cart before the horse so to speak, leaving John Snow another royal bastard? And, depending on ages, that would make him the oldest natural child of the former king, and thus his heir. |
Late response on this but I don't think its likely that Jon is Robert Baratheon's child. The reason being is simple - why would Ned feel the need to hide him? This person has already recognized his bastards before the war and Ned wouldn't keep him from a child that he sired with Lyanna IMO. There is another theory that its Brandon's child with Ashara Dayne. But that still brings in the 'why would Ned hide him from the world if that was the truth?' He took the shame on himself to claim Jon as his own. And he's a very honorable guy who wouldn't do that without a strong reason and just protecting his brother's reputation isn't enough IMO.
In my mind there are only two possible scenerios:
Jon Snow is Ned's bastard by someone who he actually loved and that's why he's keeping it a secret because he doesn't want people to think ill of HER.
OR the more likely is that Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's child and Ned's been hiding it from everyone all these years to prevent Robert or anyone else to kill him as 'dragon spawn'. There is alot of proof but the biggest proof is that the Targaryan allowed multiple marriages and therefore if Rhaegar married Lyanna, Jon wouldn't be a bastard - he'd be the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne, even before Dany since succession goes from his father to his son to HIS son, not a father to his son to his sister. And there were Kingsguard members defending the Tower of Joy when Ned got there to get his sister. There was no reason for them to be there unless there was a member of the royal family there. A mistress and/or a bastard don't count as royal family. A wife and heir do.
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NeumeIndil
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How FUGGING COOL is THIS?!?!?!?!
http://youtu.be/sVqnFRN9Z4k
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Very cool. All of those students below have fine excuses for being late to class now.  |
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My mind was just blown that it was a human playing it! The bell tower at the local university is programmed and it's my understanding most of them are these days. I expected it to be a computerized program, and instead-- white haired guy! How cool was that. 
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I watched the first season of this series recently, and I loved it. I wish I had time to read the books. The bell-tower guy was awesome!
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