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BittenBuggy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nancy wrote:
I tried very carefully in my post not to condemn, disparage, disapprove, or even disagree with The Village activities on this site. I said merely that I was not interested in it and didn't really understand it, and asked how it fit into the stated goals of Open Scrolls.
Subsequently, I have been criticized for critizing, for impuning the quality of Village fic, and for not being visible starting forum topics or participating in forum topics -- all accusations completely without merit.

I certainly hope you don't read the stories posted on this site with such prejudice and carelessness.


I don’t think I criticized anyone, I was merely stating that we have done nothing wrong, and I see no reason for the village stories not to have a place in Open Scrolls. It is quality het fanfiction. I am sorry that you were offended, but it was not my intention. And as for ‘reading stories posted on this site with such prejudice and carelessness’ I find that to be an allegation that can’t be back up.

Jenna wrote:

I think Nancy's concern was whether an RPG, which seems to me to be what this Village thing is, and all the stories that evolve from that, belonged or should be given equal billing as the general story archive on this site. It's certainly an ambitious project, and like I said before I don't think anyone's trying to take it away from you. But when it's all I see as the "active" part of the site, I'm going to tend to drift away, and I'm sure others are too. I'm sure that doesn't concern you one iota, but there it is.


Why do you think they shouldn’t be given equal billing?

Jenna, if all you see as the ‘active’ part of OS, then start new posts, no one is going to shun you or your posts just because you aren’t a village member. There isn’t one person on this site that I wouldn’t talk to, that’s silly. And it would be a real shame for you to ‘drift away’ just because we have a kind of story that you don’t approve of and we like to discuss it often.

Please keep in mind that this idea is barely a week old. People are still getting used to the idea, and getting to know one another. Since we are in our development stages, there will need to be a lot more information swapped, that makes for more forum posts in the Village section. That is not to say that we will NEVER go back and post in anything else.

And please do not accuse me of not caring. If I didn’t care, I would not be trying to help people understand what the purpose of this project is.

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Panneth



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say that the Village is an RPG. Rather we're all creating out own little AU with its own canon that we'll then go away and write about. I'd say that was what at least 75% of the posts have been about - choosing jobs, elves, things we want where we live, discussing how the real world managed to collide with ME, asking for favours from other writers to appear in fics, basic rules - that sort of set up stuff that requires a lot of discussion, but generally takes forever to finalise.

Sure we've been squabbling over characters, I've accused someone of being after Haldir, but that's only in good fun, and it's not any part of the Village Canon and we've all been making silly comments all over the place, but I don't think anyone means them as a serious part of the Village.

I probably wouldn't be contributing if it was just an RPG, I don't feel quite comfortable with those sorts of things myself. I'm just looking at is a short-cut to writing stories where I don't have to think up characters or locations because we've already set them as boundaries in our canon.

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JennnLee



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The front page of this site describes it as a kind of fanfic/RPG hybrid. I would certainly classify it as RPG rather than fanfic, since most if not all of the canon characters seem to be wildly OOC. Unless I missed the part in FOTR where Boromir was a sex slave. I mean, even in an AU, don't some characters stay in character?

I don't think it deserves equal billing to the story archive because this place is supposed to BE a story archive. But if Scribe wants it to now be a story archive/ haven for fic about sex slaves and bondage, then that's her choice. And that IS taking the site in a new direction.

No, I haven't started any new topics lately, but I have in the past. And discussions were going on about a few different things till the Village thing came up, and that's where all the attention went. I'm not saying that I'm being shunned. I'm saying the rest of the site is being neglected in favor of the village.

As far as I see, you're not really trying to help anyone understand anything. You're just telling us that you're not breaking any rules so you can do what you want, nyah. Okay then. Knock yourself out. Have fun.
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Panneth



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you say, it is Scribe's website and I would like to stress again that we are doing all of this with her permission, at least we are as far as I'm aware. And it wasn't us who created our own section of the forum or our own archive. And we have floated around the idea, at least amongst ourselves, of taking this off-site.

I really am sorry you both feel like this about what we're doing and I'm sorry you don't seem clear on what we're doing. Basically it all boils down to having a bit of fun. If you don't like what we're doing, I totally respect that, but don't criticise us for it. I don't really see what else there is to understand without us sitting down and explain every single thing that's happened since the idea started. You can do that yourselves by reading the threads.

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JennnLee



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really only going to say this one more time, because after two days my patience is wearing thin.

I am not trying to put a stop to the Village.

I have not criticized any of the people participating, or criticized the quality of the stories being produced.

I'm sorry if I'm not "clear" on what you're doing. But I am speaking with the voice of someone who is seeing your project from the outside, and was simply worried about some of the content. If you're not clear, that's not my fault.

You're right. Scribe set it up, she obviously approves. So have a great time.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dolarabee indicated that she and Scribe are away for the weekend, but will be discussing this topic in great detail.

(I know, 'cos I spent about 4 hours infront of the computer yesterday to workout the best way of splitting this V V thing off from those that aren't interested.)

So, ladies. Thread closed as it's pointless slinging mud at each other whilst we're looking at a solution. Everyone has different tastes - we'll try catering for everyone. Let us do our job.

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