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Meleka



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:28 am    Post subject: Info on Eowyn Reply with quote

I need help from everyone with some information on the character Eowyn. Did Eowyn have a specific horse in the LoTR if so does anyone know its name.

Also is there anything written that refers to her relationship with Eomer when they were children??? Maram has already given some pointers (thankyou Wink ).

Im in the process of writing a fic and need some clarification on the above points.

Would love any helps advice links etc.

Thanks All Very Happy

Pip

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Andreth



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Her horse's name is Windfola, but that's about the extent of my Eowyn knowledge. Very Happy



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Meleka



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andreth wrote:
Her horse's name is Windfola, but that's about the extent of my Eowyn knowledge. Very Happy



Anna


Actually Anna that the most important piece of information i needed.

Does anyone know where i can info on translating english to Rohirric (Is that even right?)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Counsil of Elrond has a very good Rohirric dicitionary, though I've never used it. But they're Noldorin dictionary rocks! So I would assume its good Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tolkien used Old English to represent Rohirric, so anything you can find on Old English should be appropriate.

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Hathor



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meleka wrote:
Does anyone know where i can info on translating english to Rohirric (Is that even right?)


Old English, or the type that's used in Beowulf.

Eowyn basically means 'horse lover' or something similiar. (Unless I'm completely Gandalf-flooked and have her confused with Eomer.) The term 'Eo' also means horse, which translates a large amount of Rohirric names, too.

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Andreth



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Pip,

Yep, Tolkien said "The language of Rohan I have accordingly made to resemble ancient English..." - but there's a footnote to that section that I've always pointed out to people whom I've done research for in the past:

"This linguistic procedure does not imply that the Rohirrim closely resembled the ancient English otherwise, in culture or art, in weapons or modes of warfare, except in a general way due to their circumstances: a simpler and more primitive people living in contact with a higher and more venerable culture, and occupying lands that had once been part of its domain."

That's from RotK, appendix F, section II - On Translation. Since Rohirric was based on Olde English most people also base the culture of Rohan on Anglo-Saxons, but Tolkien says that's not accurate. So just some useless knowledge for you there.

Here's a link to Ardalambion:
www.ardalambion.com

Not far from the top of the page is a section about Various Mannish Languages and the Rohirric information is in there.

And here's two OE dictionaries I've used in the past. One of them is downloadable:

http://forrest.cx/projects/oe-dict/

http://www.spiritone.com/~mcrobins/mark/oldenglish/wendere.htm


Hope that helps! Very Happy


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