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NancyBrooke Challenge Admin
Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 160 Location: In a motel 6 by the airport
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:58 am Post subject: Favorite LOTR/Silm Character |
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This discussion started elsewhere and I thought we might continue it over here:
Who's your favorite LOTR/Silm Character and why? You can consider Book and or Movie attributes.
I'll start --
Mine is Boromir (who didn't know?) and always has been (should I say 'Bean'?), since I first read Fellowship in 3rd grade.
As I wrote elsewhere:
| Nancybrooke wrote: | First of all, Boromir is a classic tragic figure, a noble stalwart warrior destroyed only by his desire to help the people and realm he loves at any cost. Second, in the end, he is nobly redeemed by his apology to Aragorn and defense of Merry and Pippin. Thirdly, if men are your bent, next to Aragorn he is positively studly - I always found book Aragorn a bit prissy.
He is tragic and therefore engendering of compassion. He is the only major character to really die in the series because he cannot live in the fourth age. He is a man inextricably made for the third - a time of war and conflict, before the age of the King. He couldn't have lived with a King in Gondor; he must have lived all his life with the knowledge that he will one day rule over all he sees, but only when his father's life has failed; then all that's taken away by a man he learns to respect and to trust. All that makes me care about him. Like Tanya, from the first he was my favorite book character.
Then comes Sean Bean, the icing on the cake. Handsome, studly, a little rough around the edges, replete with five o'clock shadow, jutting jaw (and nose), broad shoulders, and Yorkshire accent (!). That's aces in my book. Give 'em to me with a little excess testosterone, please, and thank you! |
and Tanya added
| mitasova wrote: | And I have to add that Boromir's really the Everyman character, and that makes me relate to him. He's not an Elf, nor wizard, nor mythical would-be King, nor idyllic innocent creature, not even a Dunadan with "undimmed" blood, whatever that means. He's just some guy with f*cked-up family life and responsibility too huge for anyone to bear. And he did his darnedest with the circumstances he's been put in, and in the end, he won. His reactions throughout are the closest to what I'd do in similar position (with the exception of the "heroic death" part - I'm too wussy for that).
| NancyBrooke wrote: | | All I know is he makes my tongue curl. |
Toes, too (hugs Boromir). And ditto on Legolas. I cannot even concieve what is so wonderful in his three facial expressions. I've already given up on trying. |
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sindohte

Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1621 Location: Rubbing up against an Elf
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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I would have to say that Elrond has to be one of my favorite LOTR characters. Here is an Elf who has witnessed so much tragedy and loss both in his personal life and in the passing of the ages. Elrond strikes me as a tragic figure who already has one foot in Valinor, while being forced to remain in Middle Earth to await the coming of Isildur's heir.
And that has to be a tremendous sacrifice to spend so many years waiting for Aragorn to finally be revealed as the one able to reclaim the throne of Gondor. How disappointing and at times frustrating to watch the various heirs of Isildur prior to Aragorn, either dying before they had the chance to claim the throne, having personality flaws making them unworthy of kingship, or perhaps just not wishing to assume the mantle of responsibility.
Then to finally learn that Aragorn, the man finally worthy of claiming the throne, is going to make him endure yet another loss by marrying his daughter and Arwen decided to choose a mortal life. That is what you call a bitter irony indeed. _________________ abandon thought, and let the dream descend... |
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queenoftheshire

Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 607 Location: Catching Birds with a Pool Skimmer
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oh! Don't make me choose!  _________________ ||Lex||Yoda||Sooker||
I'm coming for you..
I'm the shadow in the corner of the room.
I'm the reason you feel sick in the morning.
I'm the panic attack, at the end of the day.
I loved you.
And now you're gone. |
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Moralanqua

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1051 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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AEGNOR!
There is very little of him but i LOVE him.
Thranduil comes a close second..
I cant really explain why. I think i just have this impression of how he would think and of how magnificent he is. His story is vaugue but the hints are enough to weave a compelling tale.. _________________ I am no longer posting on the Forums. If you need me, I am lurking in the archives, reading and reviewing. You can also catch me at Demented Indigo! |
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PoweroftheBook
Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Appalachin Mountains of North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I tend to gush about him a bit, but Celebrimbor has always been my favorite.
Imagine what the poor Elf had to endure, suddenly ending up as the pariah of Elvish society because of the misdeeds of his male relations. There is something very sympathetic in the way that he becomes the second most revered Elven-smith in his attempts to right his family's wrongs, to the extent that he mistakenly takes the advice of the disguised Sauron as a way in which to expel the forces of evil.
He also reminds me of Lancelot (at least in the earlier tales, where Lancelot was hideously ugly and had to perform great deeds to make up for this, instead of his Adonis-like stature of nowadays.) He knows he cannot win the hand of the married Lady Galadriel, yet endeavors to perform such great works as to gain her favor, so that he may content himself with the fact that she loves him as a friend.
Making a huge mistake in driving Galadriel and Celeborn from Ost-in-Edhel and realizing that he has been duped to perform a great task for Sauron, we catch a glimpse of Celebrimbor's brilliance. He forges the Elven rings, leads the city, and stands at the walls of Ost-in-Edhel to face Sauron's insurmountable armies. This passage reminds me of the attack on the Alamo, where, even when they knew they would die, they refused to abandon their posts. Tortured to death, Celebrimbor refuses to announce the location of the Elven Rings. His body is strung up as a banner for the armies of Sauron.
Without quoting his entire life history as I just did, I would have to say that, besides Legolas, Celebrimbor is our most 'human' elf, complete with faults and overwhelming compulsions. Yet he manages to rise above them to become truly noble.
Regards,
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PoweroftheBook
Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Appalachin Mountains of North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and Samwise Gamgee comes in at a close second. Gotta love that line: "His will was set, and only death would break it."
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SilverMoonLady

Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 1201 Location: Breaking in a Brandybuck... *wicked grin*
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, anyone who has read any of my stuff knows I'm an unapologetic Merry-phile, and no, I can't tell you exactly why
Several things come to mind, like courage and dependability, though others also have these traits; a willingness to serve and to protect despite the cost, though he is not the only one; the thoughtfullness to realize that though he is small and not particularly significant in the large world (as are we all) it is still important to do what he can to aid whomever he may; for a host of other very small things, some only hinted at that make him worth knowing, though, of course, he is not the only one.
Hmmm.... wonder what my analyst would make of this?  |
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KhazarKhum

Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 234 Location: Quartz Hill, CA--USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | He also reminds me of Lancelot (at least in the earlier tales, where Lancelot was hideously ugly and had to perform great deeds to make up for this, instead of his Adonis-like stature of nowadays.) |
I have read a LOT of medieval romances, and I do not recall this. Sources, please???? I'm curious as to where it comes from.  |
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KhazarKhum

Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 234 Location: Quartz Hill, CA--USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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I forgot to add....
My favorite character? The Witch-king.
Like THAT"S a surprise!  |
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PoweroftheBook
Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Appalachin Mountains of North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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One of my history professors remarked upon the earliest Arthurian tales...I cannot remember the source, but I see him tommorow, so I'll ask him.
Oh, and he also mentioned that the name 'Lancelot' is a compilation of old French to mean 'ill form' or 'misshapen form'. I cannot confirm this, but if you know anyone who speaks French, perhaps they could help.
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SilverMoonLady

Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 1201 Location: Breaking in a Brandybuck... *wicked grin*
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| PoweroftheBook wrote: | Oh, and he also mentioned that the name 'Lancelot' is a compilation of old French to mean 'ill form' or 'misshapen form'. I cannot confirm this, but if you know anyone who speaks French, perhaps they could help.
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I shall investigate...:  |
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KhazarKhum

Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 234 Location: Quartz Hill, CA--USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:26 am Post subject: |
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The earliest Arthurian stories are from Chretien de Troyes, a troubadour for Elanor of Aquitaine. Lancelot is not shown as homely in the early stories; he's usually called fair, which was a common way of saying good-looking.
Does the prof have a source that we can check?[/i] |
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KhazarKhum

Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 234 Location: Quartz Hill, CA--USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:04 am Post subject: |
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PoweroftheBook--
I don't want to sound nasty or mean or anything.
I have run into a few other people who believed that Lancelot was supposed to be ugly.
The problem is, the stories never describe him that way; he's always the "best knight" or the "fairest knight" or whatever.
I kind of wonder if it's like a lot of Urban Legends--someone says something, it's quoted, and suddenly it's "true". Classic examples are things like swallowing gum makes your insides stick together.
Now, on a slightly different topic--Arthurian Romances are really fanfic. [/b] |
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PoweroftheBook
Joined: 20 Aug 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Appalachin Mountains of North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: |
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I meet with my professor later today.
Don't worry...I take what most of my professors say with a grain of salt or two. Still, he seems to really know his stuff when it comes to ancient literature and legend.
Won't be able to post till tonight, though!
Regards,
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SilverMoonLady

Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 1201 Location: Breaking in a Brandybuck... *wicked grin*
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| KhazarKhum wrote: |
Now, on a slightly different topic--Arthurian Romances are really fanfic. |
Hehehe, no kidding. And most of it pretty AU too:) |
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