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NancyBrooke
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Wow~ I am learning so much! I know very little of the 'older' elves like Celebrimbor and nothing about Aegnor.
Mora - can you tell me/us more about him?
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Mitasova
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Boromir is my favourite character overall, but Nancy already covered that issue. In the Silm, specifically, I like Morwen Eledhwen the best. She reminds me so much of my late grandmother, it's scary - stern and willful, unforgiving to herself and the others, and pretty much the ultimate power in the household. Her husband H?rin Thalion comes close second. "Words of H?rin and Morgoth" is my favourite part of the UT: | Quote: | | "This last then I will say to you, thrall Morgoth," said H?rin, "and it comes not from the lore of the Eldar, but is put into my heart in this hour. You are not the Lord of Men, and shall not be, though all Arda and Menel fall in your dominion. Beyond the Circles of the World you shall not pursue those who refuse you." |
- now that is a spirit! But he was jentle and open with his feelings, too, the way Morwen couldn't be, as is shown in the way he mourned Lalaith his daughter. All in all, this couple rocks hardcore. And I like their misbegotten son, too - despite (or, probably, because of) all the sh*t he stirred.
PS. One small matter about Boromir, cause I just cannot leave him alone - I adore his name. B-o-r-o-m-i-r. So resounding and proud. The thrillsd "r"s, the rounded "o"s - delicious. *sigh* Yes, I'm a loon.
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Aegnor was in Aman when them hot headed Finwe brats decided to take the oath. I believe he followed but was not totally into it all.
He settled in Dorthonion with his bro Angrod and they kept vigil against Morgoth. They were both killed in Dagor Bragollach.
Aegnor was described by Tolkien as having an unusual haircut. Blonde but spiky and stiff at the top, long at the back. Hence the mullet.
He was also in lurve with a mortal woman named Andreth, who was one smart toots.
He chose to not follow thru and have his red hot elfy luvin with her and she was devastated and thought he dumped her because she was old and foosty.
In truth, he knew it would never work and i think he also knew he would die prematurly.
His name means Fell Fire and he is MY love muffin.
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KhazarKhum -
I asked my professor, and we looked through his gathered tomes. He then realized that the idea of Lancelot being ugly was an idea from 'The Once and Future King'.
He will make a public retraction in class Wednesday.
Grain of salt, indeed. I'll take a whole pillar of salt with me now that I'm going to have to examine some of my previous notes.
I never did think that Celebrimbor wasn't exactly ugly, just downtrodden in regards to his married lady love. The whole Galadriel/Guenevere comparison was what led me to compare all of Celebrimbor's many deeds and works for Galadriel to the great quests and deeds of Lancelot.
As for Arthurian legends being fanfic, I most certainly agree! Look at the havoc Marion Zimmer Bradley wrecked on King Arthur!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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As for Arthurian legends being fanfic, I most certainly agree! Look at the havoc Marion Zimmer Bradley wrecked on King Arthur!
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Oh the embroidery starts *much* earlier than that:) |
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Alright...I've narrowed it down to a choice few...
Sam is one of my favorites of course! I especially like the quote : "Don't go where I can't follow."
Hmmm...Faramir and Eowyn. I only really enjoy these two as a couple. I think their characters are more complete then. I happen to like them alot more than Aragorn and Arwen.
I've taken a wierd shining to the extremly minor characters of Nob and Bob...I'm not sure how exactly it came about.  But you have to love a little Bree Hobbit who saves Merry, and umm of course guys named Bob. 
Oh how could I forget!?! Merry and Pippin are the greatest! Call me a pervy hobbit fancier. Those two pranksters have stolen my heart Devious curious lil fellows.
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KhazarKhum
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The earliest "Arthurian" stories are 12th C French. Within 20 years variants showed up in German courts. And it simply exploded from there, in a pattern very similar to that of fanfic.
There's a set of characters, given places, and known enemies. [Sounds familiar?  ] Then the favorite characters are given all sorts of love interests, wild challenges, impossible quests, and so on. Again, in a hauntingly familiar strain, the greatest number of "original" characters are females--usually designed as the romantic interest of an established knight. And they are invariably good, pure & beautiful, just like--dare I say it--our beloved Mary Sue.
So, you see, we are working here in a grand literary tradition!  |
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| KhazarKhum wrote: |
So, you see, we are working here in a grand literary tradition! |
Yup, and add in all the fun legends and myths of earlier times that got added into the mishmash and *wow*
Just as mixed up as the rest of us
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Aragorn then Erestor even though no one really knows much about him. He's just as mysterious as aragorn.
Who is the guy who looks like he's sitting on a pin? |
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Maram68
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No one is risking to be a Mary Sue, so I will step forward with my fave of ever:
Legolas Thranduilion
Yes, the most common elf is my fave character.
I love the idea of an elven character evolving in a human way, learning to accept his friends ways and giving them loyalty to the end.
He is a quite weird elf, the way he just ... tags along and submits to the needs of the group.
JRR didn't write much about him, but I'll always see him as the elf closest to human I could think of.
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NancyBrooke
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| KhazarKhum wrote: | | My favorite character? The Witch-king. |
Khaz - how come?
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NancyBrooke
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| Maram68 wrote: | Legolas Thranduilion; I love the idea of an elven character evolving in a human way, learning to accept his friends ways and giving them loyalty to the end.
He is a quite weird elf, the way he just ... tags along and submits to the needs of the group. |
Hunh ... I never thought about it that way. You may make a Legolas appreaciator out of me yet!
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| Maram68 wrote: |
I love the idea of an elven character evolving in a human way, learning to accept his friends ways and giving them loyalty to the end.
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I have always seen Legolas as being the eternal observer of the group. And as he evolved and accepted his comrades, he was also able to observe the psyches of men, dwarves, Hobbits, and even a maia. Now that would be a plot bunny to end all plot bunnies - Legolas' reflections on the Fellowship.
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KhazarKhum
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Nancy asked:
| Quote: | KhazarKhum wrote:
My favorite character? The Witch-king.
Khaz - how come?
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