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sindohte
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 Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:23 am Post subject: Hookers in ME? |
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I just knew that subject heading would catch your attention  As to my question, I have read a few fanfics featuring Gondorian courtesans and houses of pleasure. However I have except for one story and it was a slash one at that, I have not encountered the same sort of thing in any of the stories I have read featuring Elves. So here are my questions -
1. Would Elven courtesans violate any of the fundamental precepts laid out in HoME and LACE in particular? (Besides causing Tolkien to roll about in his grave and begin frothing madly at the thought of premarital and possibly extramarital sex)
2. Who would these Elven courtesans service?
The reason why I am asking is that I have an idea percolating for a semi-short PWP for the 1st Time in Middle Earth challenge.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: good question Sind |
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I was thinking the same thing! Will be watching this thread with curiousity.
Thanks for posting it!
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PoweroftheBook
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm...Elvish courtesans?
While I tend to favor the Tolkien world of no premarital or extramarital sex, I can certainly accept those fictions who do not. But it does strike me as odd that the Firstborn of Illuvatar would sell their bodies for sex - to me, it just doesn't add up that they would sell what might be given joyfully to one another.
Now as for the subject of deflowering Elves, I wouldn't be surprised if the fathers knew the name of a willing and loving local girl with much more experience (Cue The Graduate).
Hope this helps,
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inglor
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:51 am Post subject: |
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My muse in charge of canon issues just had puppies... 
I think the only way to skirt the LACE might be to ritualize a courtesan, maybe there could be a underground group of elves ( like Yavanna priestesses/ Aule priests that were in charge of the "Education" of young lords and ladies. But as for relieving tensions... LACE, what LACE...
I bet the Feanorians needed dozens 
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sindohte
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| PoweroftheBook wrote: | Hmmm...Elvish courtesans?
While I tend to favor the Tolkien world of no premarital or extramarital sex, I can certainly accept those fictions who do not. But it does strike me as odd that the Firstborn of Illuvatar would sell their bodies for sex - to me, it just doesn't add up that they would sell what might be given joyfully to one another.
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I was thinking that Elvish courtesans would not charge for their services. Rather it would be a natural societal role like that of warrior, healer, etc., Money changing hands would be rather tawdry imho and definitely not in keeping with the joy of sex.
Inglor - glad to know your muse had puppies
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inglor
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:05 am Post subject: |
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see my edit
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PoweroftheBook
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Ah! Sorry, with the tagline 'Hookers in ME', I just assumed...
Yes, I agree with Inglor's solution, rituals being more in line with Elvish society than yelling up at someone's talan "Hey! Are you free tonight!"
BTW, Inglor, are those puppies up for adoption?
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sindohte
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| inglor wrote: | | I think the only way to skirt the LACE might be to ritualize a courtesan, maybe there could be a underground group of elves ( like Yavanna priestesses/ Aule priests that were in charge of the "Education" of young lords and ladies. |
My muse is rubbing her hands in glee, because you have just given her permission to make use of an idea that had been rattling around in her brain
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inglor
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Glad I could be of service. 
I was hoping that would be the case
This could be interesting, I can't wait to read it 
Inglor
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Viv
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| inglor wrote: | | I bet the Feanorians needed dozens |
That mental image is positively cold-shower-requiring. And I'm at work. Sheesh. |
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| can't wait to read it.... |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | except for one story and it was a slash one at that, I have not encountered the same sort of thing in any of the stories I have read featuring Elves |
I have just finished a story (Misrule in Mirkwood) that featured two elleth hookers and mentioned a couple more... One was a lovely lady who was hired to initiate Legolas at his coming of age ceremony (rather as Powerofthebook suggests)... |
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