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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Battle signals! Reply with quote

Other than 'retreat,' 'surrender' and 'advance', what is there?

Specifically, I'm trying to imagine what a defender might signal to his commander if there's been a defensive breach. Or, to put it another way, what's the proper horn call for - We're screwed!! Come quick!!!

Any serious suggestions, and wacko commentary welcome.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than the "Charge" the only other I can think of was the horn sounding for "recall" which was used to call off an attack. I looked up bugle calls and couldn't find anything specific for what you have in mind but here is the site: http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/appendix/buglecalls/Buglecalls.html

Might not be what you are looking for but you will have a little more knowledge after you click it... Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run? LOL

You might try Elliska. She does re-enactments of battles I think or she did. She might have a good one better than 'Haul ass'.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, All: I've e-mailed Elliska and Inglor, you and that site gave me some helpful vocab which broadened my search. Still not sure what to use, but I think I'm on a better trail.

Rally? Alarm? Orc?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to my high school music teacher, the buglers used to have a fairly large repetoire of signals beyond revely and taps. There was a particular call for fire. One night a military musician was forced to use it in lieu of a fire alarm. Fortunately, there were enough older soldiers in the area at the time who still recognized it and brought everyone else.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Rally? Alarm? Orc?

'Oh shit'? Sorry, Nancy. I have no idea. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dolarabee wrote:
NancyBrooke wrote:
Rally? Alarm? Orc?

'Oh shit'? Sorry, Nancy. I have no idea. Wink

That's certainly the subtext! Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that solely depends on which battle you are describing. For example you have drummer boys who would tap all the commands for their part of the army, because hollering that you have a breach in your defence is only in favour of the opposite army. Is it a Gondor war? I think they would have a repertoire on the horn, given that seems to be used often.

What I know of my own original fic research (medieval battle warfare) is that men would follow the banner where ever it went (that was quite crucial) and that the herald, close to the man who led them into battle issued commands. I haven't asked yet if they used instruments, but I can ask.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhapsody wrote:
I think that solely depends on which battle you are describing ... Is it a Gondor war? I think they would have a repertoire on the horn, given that seems to be used often.
Yes, it's Gondor; I was assuming horns, too.

This isn't about the Commander giving orders, it's about the Commander receiving information from a Captain located some distance away to the effect of 'it's me, they've broken through, send reinforcements (or we're screwed).'

I guess, to be specific, I'm looking for the appropriate equivalents for "breach" and "aid."

Any thoughts welcome.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the words of Bruce Willis

'Cowboy the f*ck up!'

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
'Cowboy the f*ck up!'

ROFL

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
'Cowboy the f*ck up!'

Hmmmm ... Hmmm translate that into Sindarin and we may have something! Yippee Ki-Yay ...


I wouldn't

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Rhapsody wrote:
Is it a Gondor war? I think they would have a repertoire on the horn, given that seems to be used often.
Yes, it's Gondor; I was assuming horns, too.

Come to think of it ... when it's Gondor, I'm always assuming horns Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:

Come to think of it ... when it's Gondor, I'm always assuming horns Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alassante wrote:
NancyBrooke wrote:

Come to think of it ... when it's Gondor, I'm always assuming horns Twisted Evil


Spit warning needed. Puke


That puking guy isn't quite the spewing drink on the monitor look I was going for.

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