Orcs

BittenBuggy · Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject:

Somehow Nancy, I dont see there being much of a 'romance' wtf

I see female orcs as being creatures locked up in dungeons forced to squeeze out babies all the time. Probably their population isnt as great as male orcs. Maybe Morgoth found a way to up the number of boy-orc-babies. *shrugs*

Andreth · Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 1211

I've had some discussions with people who don't think there were female Orcs. They take the passage where it refers to the Orcs breeding deep in the dark earth or something like that to be literal, that the Orcs were made in a manner akin to what you see in the movies. We finally agreed to disagree.

I don't see how there couldn't be female Orcs. Like BB said, it specifically says that they bred after the manner of the Children of Eru, so that, to me, means male/female relations. Also it specifically says that Saruman could reduce men to a state that they would mate with Orcs so again, it sounds like some male/female action going on there.

But again, I've had people say, 'well Tolkien didn't *specifically* mention female Orcs, so they must not exist', to which I reply that Tolkien was notoriously prudish and Victorian about sex and that he wouldn't even mention Mortal or Elf sex except on scientific/biological terms. He rarely mentioned Mortal or Elf women unless they had some important role to play in the stories. I can't even begin to imagine Tolkien describing the mating habits of Orcs except in the most vague terms, like he already did.

Okay, ending rant and stepping down off soapbox now. As for Orc sex stories, there's two authors I know of, Enros and Grond, who write Orc stories and actually do a very good job of it. I don't think they have any stories over here though. You'll have to brave Fan Fiction or go to HASA to find them, I think. Maybe even Adult Fan Fiction. I'll look around later and see if I can't find any.

Anna