[Alassante]

I know that Elrond and his children were granted the life of the elves but I want to know if my human OC and an elf have a child, would the child:

1) have elf ears?
2) have elven mannerisms/senses?
3) have long life?
4) be able to go to the undying lands?
5) if they were with another elf and had a child (making the child 75% elf) would they be granted the above?

[Thuriniel]

I guess you could use what we know of Eldarion as your basis.

So what do we know about Eldarion ?

[SpaceWeavil]

[Alassante]

[Alassante]

Here is what it says in the Encloypedia of Arda:

The son of Aragorn II Elessar and Arwen Evenstar; almost nothing is known of his life, but that he became King of the Reunited Kingdom after the death of his father in IV 120.

For such an important character, almost nothing is known of Eldarion's life or deeds. Almost the only definite statement about him came from his father, who commented that he was 'full-ripe for kingship' in The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen (given in Appendix A I (v) to The Lord of the Rings). Aragorn's ancestors had tended to take over their duties as Chieftain at about the age of ninety: if Eldarion followed this pattern, this would place his birth in the years around IV 30.

Eldarion inherited his Kingdom in a manner that recalled the ancient traditions of Númenor: his father Aragorn Elessar gave him the tokens of his rule, and then gave up his life willingly, as his mighty ancestors had done thousands of years before. The new King's mother Arwen left him to rule alone, passing away to the now-empty land of Lórien, where her long life also came to an end. As well as being the Heir of Isildur and High King, his descent from Elrond through Arwen made Eldarion the lord of the remaining Elf-lands of Middle-earth. This fact seems to be the source of his name, which apparently means 'Descendant of the Eldar'.

What these great titles meant in practice, cannot now be known. There are references in the History of Middle-earth that make it all but certain that he left descendants to rule after him, but apart from these, no details of Eldarion's time as High King are recorded.


As he was the lord of the remaining elf lands and considered the descendant of the Eldar - I think it sounds like he was kinda both man and elf.

[SpaceWeavil]

I would again be inclined to refer to the Line of Elros, to be honest, and think he would be a long-lived Edain. (for a start, he died.)

I still reckon that'd be a good thing to research. There's probably a bit more to get your teeth into, if you look into things like Unfinished Tales (I have an electronic version of that, which contains a list of all the descendants of Elros and some stuff about them, if that would be of any use)

[SpaceWeavil]

Also just as a point, I'm not sure what they're basing that stuff about him becoming high lord of the Eldar on. I don't recall that ever being said in any of the texts or HoME. And we don't know what happened to Celeborn, or to Elrond's sons or to Thranduil. So I think it very unlikely that Eldarion would become their lord to be honest. His name just means son of the Eldar, surely, which is true, and tells you nothing about his status. And I am almost certain there was some reference of what happened after him in Peoples of Middle Earth. Certainly in the unfinished story The Return of the Shadow or New Shadow or whatever it's called, the events were set, according to Christopher Tolkien's notes, after Eldarion's death.

So although I may be wrong, and someone else is welcome to contradict me, I would take that info there with a pinch of salt.

[Thuriniel]

[SpaceWeavil]

[Thuriniel]

Well, I'll be ... I can't believe this ... first try and I find it!!! It's disturbing what sort of details remain in my brain ...

Here's the thread

http://www.openscrolls.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=579&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

The discussion about the ears begins toward the end, I believe pg. 4/5. After the Balrogs .

[Viv]

[Alassante]