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Sulriel



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: Question for all you Sindarin Specialists Reply with quote

Lessien wrote:
Hello Peeps and happy Friday to all,



I have a quick question. Does anyone know the Sindarin word for : Duty? If not, could someone point me in the right direction as to where I can find a good translator?

~Lessie



I'm better with Quenya than with Sinarino and my handy dandy Dragon Flame software doesn't give me a word for duty. I'm not sure what the context is, but, oddly enough, I'm not finding words for 'job' or 'honor'.

'task' is [Hiswelókë's Sindarin dictionary (Edition 1.5, Lexicon 0.99)]
tass (t'ass) (tars) n.  labour,  task ◇ Ety/391 ◇ MS *tass, *tars, OS *tarsa
(TÁRAS)

hope that helps.

Becky

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Building on Sulriel's suggestion, you might try tass baureg, which is a clumsy construction to mean 'needful task.' The adjective baureg (from baur = need) is neo-sindarin, i.e. I made it up.

The resources I use, and I am by no means an expert, are:

Ardalambion, which is an awesome site for all Tolkien languages
the Gwaith-i-Phethdain, which has a treatise on Sindarin Grammar, a Sindarin Course, and a dictionary of what I take to be neo-Sindarin
The Sindarin Dictionary Project, where you can download the aforementioned Dragon Flame program
and the Council of Elrond which has a Elvish forum and dictionary (no entry for 'duty' though).

Go, thee, and geek out!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NancyBrooke wrote:
Building on Sulriel's suggestion, you might try tass baureg, which is a clumsy construction to mean 'needful task.' The adjective baureg (from baur = need) is neo-sindarin, i.e. I made it up.

The resources I use, and I am by no means an expert, are:

Ardalambion, which is an awesome site for all Tolkien languages
the Gwaith-i-Phethdain, which has a treatise on Sindarin Grammar, a Sindarin Course, and a dictionary of what I take to be neo-Sindarin
The Sindarin Dictionary Project, where you can download the aforementioned Dragon Flame program
and the Council of Elrond which has a Elvish forum and dictionary (no entry for 'duty' though).

Go, thee, and geek out!



Needful task is good Nancy, I couldn't think of anything. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:43 am    Post subject: Duty-translated Reply with quote

Many thanks Nancy and Sulriel!

I've been scribbling away at Book Two of my mini-epic and while Book One-Lalaith (Laughter) was a seemingly effortless birth, Book Two-Duty is proving to be a very hard labor.

I do indeed like "needful task". May I use "tass-baureg" or some made-up variation with your permission, Nancy?


~Lessie
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Duty-translated Reply with quote

Lessien wrote:
Many thanks Nancy and Sulriel!

I've been scribbling away at Book Two of my mini-epic and while Book One-Lalaith (Laughter) was a seemingly effortless birth, Book Two-Duty is proving to be a very hard labor.

O don't I know how that is!!! I've been struggling with a similar situation for quite some time. I started a story ages ago that began effortlessly and that first chapter I still think is some of my best work - if not the best. But the rest has been a word by word struggle - to bring it up to the level of that first bit and to write it at all Evil or Very Mad . I'm sure the folks here are tired of hearing me whine about it. Oh, well! I do keep struggling and I hope you do too.

Lessien wrote:
I do indeed like "needful task". May I use "tass-baureg" or some made-up variation with your permission, Nancy?

As far as I'm concerned, posting a suggested solution is permission (though not everyone else may feel the same) so go right ahead and don't worry about asking in the future. Credit is always nice, though. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Encoraging Words Reply with quote

Thanks for the encoragement Nancy. I certainly will stick with it even if I feel like having given birth to a watermelon Confused at the end of every writing session. Besides, my pesky characters just won't leave me alone. They have this habit of tap-dancing on my brain at the most inconvenient times--usually during a meeting or conference call. Twisted Evil

Sigh

~Lessie
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