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Sulriel

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Imladris (or maybe Texas ...)
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: RE: Question for all you Sindarin Specialists |
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| Lessien wrote: | Hello Peeps and happy Friday to all,
I have a quick question. Does anyone know the Sindarin word for : Duty? If not, could someone point me in the right direction as to where I can find a good translator?
~Lessie |
I'm better with Quenya than with Sinarino and my handy dandy Dragon Flame software doesn't give me a word for duty. I'm not sure what the context is, but, oddly enough, I'm not finding words for 'job' or 'honor'.
'task' is [Hiswelókë's Sindarin dictionary (Edition 1.5, Lexicon 0.99)]
tass (t'ass) (tars) n. labour, task ◇ Ety/391 ◇ MS *tass, *tars, OS *tarsa
(TÁRAS)
hope that helps.
Becky _________________ "May it be a light to you in dark places." |
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NancyBrooke Challenge Admin
Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 160 Location: In a motel 6 by the airport
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Building on Sulriel's suggestion, you might try tass baureg, which is a clumsy construction to mean 'needful task.' The adjective baureg (from baur = need) is neo-sindarin, i.e. I made it up.
The resources I use, and I am by no means an expert, are:
Ardalambion, which is an awesome site for all Tolkien languages
the Gwaith-i-Phethdain, which has a treatise on Sindarin Grammar, a Sindarin Course, and a dictionary of what I take to be neo-Sindarin
The Sindarin Dictionary Project, where you can download the aforementioned Dragon Flame program
and the Council of Elrond which has a Elvish forum and dictionary (no entry for 'duty' though).
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Sulriel

Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Posts: 286 Location: Imladris (or maybe Texas ...)
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| NancyBrooke wrote: | Building on Sulriel's suggestion, you might try tass baureg, which is a clumsy construction to mean 'needful task.' The adjective baureg (from baur = need) is neo-sindarin, i.e. I made it up.
The resources I use, and I am by no means an expert, are:
Ardalambion, which is an awesome site for all Tolkien languages
the Gwaith-i-Phethdain, which has a treatise on Sindarin Grammar, a Sindarin Course, and a dictionary of what I take to be neo-Sindarin
The Sindarin Dictionary Project, where you can download the aforementioned Dragon Flame program
and the Council of Elrond which has a Elvish forum and dictionary (no entry for 'duty' though).
Go, thee, and geek out! |
Needful task is good Nancy, I couldn't think of anything.  _________________ "May it be a light to you in dark places." |
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Lessien

Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Hitchhiking across Middle Earth
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: Duty-translated |
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Many thanks Nancy and Sulriel!
I've been scribbling away at Book Two of my mini-epic and while Book One-Lalaith (Laughter) was a seemingly effortless birth, Book Two-Duty is proving to be a very hard labor.
I do indeed like "needful task". May I use "tass-baureg" or some made-up variation with your permission, Nancy?
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NancyBrooke Challenge Admin
Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 160 Location: In a motel 6 by the airport
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Duty-translated |
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| Lessien wrote: | Many thanks Nancy and Sulriel!
I've been scribbling away at Book Two of my mini-epic and while Book One-Lalaith (Laughter) was a seemingly effortless birth, Book Two-Duty is proving to be a very hard labor. |
O don't I know how that is!!! I've been struggling with a similar situation for quite some time. I started a story ages ago that began effortlessly and that first chapter I still think is some of my best work - if not the best. But the rest has been a word by word struggle - to bring it up to the level of that first bit and to write it at all . I'm sure the folks here are tired of hearing me whine about it. Oh, well! I do keep struggling and I hope you do too.
| Lessien wrote: | | I do indeed like "needful task". May I use "tass-baureg" or some made-up variation with your permission, Nancy? |
As far as I'm concerned, posting a suggested solution is permission (though not everyone else may feel the same) so go right ahead and don't worry about asking in the future. Credit is always nice, though.  _________________ NB Duchess of WHY TF Cant'chu Punctuate, First Duchess of F*&(ing &*ll yur comma placement sux!
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Lessien

Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Hitchhiking across Middle Earth
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: Encoraging Words |
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Thanks for the encoragement Nancy. I certainly will stick with it even if I feel like having given birth to a watermelon at the end of every writing session. Besides, my pesky characters just won't leave me alone. They have this habit of tap-dancing on my brain at the most inconvenient times--usually during a meeting or conference call.
Sigh
~Lessie |
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